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2007-07-15 12:56:25 · 22 answers · asked by Matthew T 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Nope- Jesus was NOT the messiah!
Here is why we don't believe that Jesus was the messiah in simple terms:
1) The dead were not resurrected
2) The Jews did not beome priests to the other nations
3) There is no world peace
4) The temple is not standing
5) There is no temple service
6) There is no parah adumah or its ashes to render us tahor
7) The messiah is from the House of David. your house/tribe is inherited from your father. Your father is your BIOLOGICAL father- there is no adoption in Judaisim to another father- if God is the father of Jesus- then Jesus cannot be from the House of David as God is not frm the House of David.
8) Human sacrifice is completely forbidden in Judaism- remeber God stopping the sacrifice of Isaac? The idea of a human being sacrificed is the opposite of anything from Judaism!
9) You have to atone for yourself! An essential part of the atonement process is being repentant. Someone cannot be repentant for you- you have to do it for yourself. ONly communal sins can be forgiven communally- not individual, private sins!

And no- the messiah does NOT proclaim himself- he will be recognised by his deeds- not by his claims- in other words, through doing the above he will be recognised as the messiah. On top of that- mashiach is a HUMAN being, with HUMAN parents- the idea of an anthropomorphised God going around and impregnating young woman is completely alien to Judaism- though it fits very nicely into the pagan religions of the time which had their heroes being fathered by gods (ala Hercules and his daddy Zeus)

NOTE ON MESSIANIC JUDAISM/JEWS FOR JESUS
Both of these are deemed as nothing more than Christian sects using deceitful means to convert Jews. EVERY Jewish denomination denounces these sects as Christians and nothing more. However, by Jewish law, once a Jew, always Jew- whether born or converted. Thus once a person is Jewish they are always judged by Jewish standards, and if they revert/convert to a different religion they are still considered Jewish by Jewish law. BUT, someone practising a religion other than Judaism is considered outside of the community, may not be a member of the community, receive any community honours, be a representative for the community, be buried in a Jewish cemetary, marry a Jew or be treated as a Jew for the purposes of the laws of mourning. However, since they never stop being a Jew- they merely have to repent, return to Judaism and go to mikveh in order to once again be a full member of the community.

2007-07-15 21:04:10 · answer #1 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 2 0

First of all, the first answerer has no idea what he is talking about. You only need to read his first few sentences to understand that.

Here is the Jewish answer: we're not a race. You can be black, white, Asian, Middle Eastern, whatever, and be Jewish. You also cannot convert to a race or leave a race, while you can convert to Judaism and can leave (or be kicked out of) Judaism. We are both a religion and an ethnic family anyone can join. Some members of the family don't practice as much as they should, some don't practice at all, but they're still a member of the family unless they choose to leave by joining another family (or religion.)

THAT SAID. No, a Jew cannot believe in J*sus as the messiah because that would make him a Xtian. Believing in J*sus is contrary to the very backbone of Judaism. But you can be a Jewish Agnostic, can't you? So Judaism isn't just a religion and you can believe whatever you want, right? Wrong. You can be a Jewish agnostic or even a Jewish atheist because neither agnosticism nor atheism go AGAINST Judaism. Xtianity, however, does go against Judaism, so one cannot be a Jewish Xtian.

To believe in J*sus as messiah results in apostacy--a state where you're not really Jewish unless you repent of your wrongs and turn back to the fold. As a believer in J*sus you cannot participate in Jewish life and no Jewish authority recognizes you as Jewish, but as a Xtian.

So the answer is no, a Jew cannot believe in J*sus as messiah, because once s/he does, s/he becomes a Xtian.

2007-07-15 13:47:05 · answer #2 · answered by LadySuri 7 · 3 0

um, no. The main difference is that We (becuz i'm jewish,) beleive that the messiah has not yet been born.

My hebrew school teacher told me something about all the jews must come together 3 times in order for the messiah to be born. She said we had the first 2... adam & eve, and mount siniah (spelled wrong i'm sure.)


P.S. I heard that in the Christian faith the Messiah must be born AGAIN for the whole world peace and stuff to begin. So technically, once the jewish messiah is born, everyone's messiah is too & there will be world peace & all that other stuff.

2007-07-16 04:34:30 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Yes; she or he can, but then they are no longer Jewish.
Many people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, for example one cannot convert to become an Oriental or an African-American, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.

2007-07-15 14:48:39 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

No, because Jews believe the Messiah has not yet arrived. Groups such as "Jews for Jesus" are not really Jews if they believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

2007-07-15 13:26:56 · answer #5 · answered by BlueManticore 6 · 4 0

yes, God entrusted his Word to the Jews and through them would provide a savior for the entire world. That Savior is Jesus Christ, born a Jew. When he arrived on earth, he chose 12 jews to be his disciples and in his early ministry ministered mainly to the Jews. The bible says the gospel is to the Jew first and then the Gentiles. The Jews are the natural branches of the tree and non Jews or gentiles are foreign branches grafted in. At the end of the church age, there will be a great revival among the Jewish nation and many many Jews will accept Christ as their Savior/Messiah and be saved. Bottom line, salvation for anyone, Jew or Gentile only comes one way, through Christ. He said he is the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father accept by Him.

2007-07-15 13:07:43 · answer #6 · answered by SusieDarling 2 · 0 5

Yes, a Jew can believe in YAHSHUA HAMASHIACH, but not as xianity teaches or believes in it. To understand this, you must return to the purity of Torah/Tanakh. In other words, the truth is the purity of the scriptures. 'Judaism' is wrong, 'xianity' is wrong, they are both looking at either side of the veil, when the truth is right in the middle. YAHSHUA taught TORAH, He never came to CHANGE TORAH or teach it DIFFERENTLY.
He came for the lost tribes of ISRAEL, along with the GENTILES that would hear Torah in the SYNOGOGUES and become ECHAD with the Father.
What is a Jew? The ones that follow TORAH and have the true testimony of YAHSHUA.
If you look at the New testament(which, really, is just a continuance of Torah), you will see Torah, and you will see how the Messiah FULFILLS the Torah.
BTW I've been to Israel, I've seen people who CALL THEMSELVES JEWS, but do not follow Torah, and couldn't care less about their heritage. So the previous comment about Jews 'not leaving their faith' is a lie. There are many people calling themselves Jews but with NO FAITH. They are not really Jews.

2007-07-15 15:14:46 · answer #7 · answered by witnessnbr1 4 · 0 4

in case you study your Bible, in Acts you are able to learn the way the Christians met interior the Synagogues interior the evenings. additionally that Rabi Jesus says in Matthew 5:17-20 that he isn't right here to start a sparkling faith, yet to restoration the Jewish one. And there are Jewish/Christian followers that are obey God and Jesus extra useful than maximum different religions at present. The Bible tells us that anybody with HATE in them will bypass to HELL. With all of the detest you're showing, you would be appropriate to resign it and discover ways to love all human beings.

2016-10-03 21:30:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Q: What do other Jews call Messianic Jews?

A: Christians

2007-07-15 13:15:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

Not that I know of. They are still looking for a messiah.

2007-07-15 13:02:51 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

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