How can saying that there was Armenian genocide make me a racist. Every other country in the world except Turkey says Armenian genocide happened. So does that make the rest of the world racists??????
None of my questions are racist and none say that Turks are bad. I just think that your country has a big human rights and nationalist problem, and think you should speak up to what your miltary is doing in your name.
I know this because I'm Kurd and know what your army is doing to my people, and I can not live in my country because it is not free. The EU won't allow Turkey membership because of human rights problems. So don't lie and say that Turkey is perfect.
Why when your country commits a crime to you have to defend it.
2007-07-15 11:44:23 · 14 answers · asked by colors 1 in Travel ➔ Europe (Continental) ➔ Turkey
No ,you are not racist...You are my friend...I support you...
2007-07-16 10:26:05 · answer #1 · answered by habisce 1 · 3⤊ 6⤋
You will be loved if and only if you think just like them, thinking in any other way, you will be called racist, enemy, traitor and so on...
If you don't want to be called a racist, or IF you don't want your answers which are based on reality and many real sources be reported and deleted, you've better say:
Turkey is great, number one, sooooooo democratic, Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and other minorities enjoy the full democracy(!) and freedom of speech(!!!!), journalists are NOT threated(!!) and jailed and there is NO rule to annoy them(!!!!!!!), Turkey is fair, great and democratic.
Turkish people, wake up from your sweet (but unfortunately not true) dream. Open your eyes and look at your past and present neutrally.
I hate racist groups such as gray wolves, pan-Turkists, pkk, and asala. (Fortunately the last one doesn't exist anymore) and I think that everyone hates them, weather be an Armenian, Kurd or Turk.
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Ms. Lady:
What you mentioned about what genocide means is right and really defines the Armenian Genocide.
Ottoman young Turks have "used" Kurds against Armenians, BUT it was not a war among Armenians and Kurds and many many Armenians have been survived by Kurds.
You are trying to relate the genocide issue to Kurds, after you generalized the terrorist group PKK to all Kurds.
By the way, do you happen to know about pan-Turkism strategy of the Ottoman young Turks? Their aims and goals?
Their thought and ideas?
What would you say about that? I don't think you would say young Turks were Kurds, would you?!
2007-07-16 06:10:10 · answer #2 · answered by ՎԱՀԷ 4 · 2⤊ 6⤋
People can call you as racist because of the questions you ask which are one sided and provocative.For instance,you asked why Kurdish language is banned while it is not.I answered your question but you could not say I was wrong since I was right.You are just asking questions like I mentioned above which are provocative and not based on scientific facts.
If you are not racist,then tell me why you are just asking questions about the sensitive subjects of Turkey.You do it because you try to blame Turkey in every subjects but nothing else.
Moreover,Turkish army does not do anything harmful to Kurds.It does all its action against PKK who kills the civilians. Even PKK kills Kurds.It attacks factories which supply money to local people,Kurds.
However,I think you are already talking about PKK and after that you cannot be anything but racist.
2007-07-16 04:56:29 · answer #3 · answered by habisce 6 · 5⤊ 3⤋
Well, honey we are not really interested in EU. So don't you dare try to threaten us with the Union.
Our army didn't have a problem with you until you started to murder innocent Kurds and Turks, babies,pregnant women.
Your fundemantal system in your culture is taking the money of the state and using you as the workers. All the books,computers that state send to you are in not opened boxes. (Don't tell me it is not true, i have a relative working in the east.) You make 20 children and then say that nobody takes care of you. You don't even remember some of your children's names yourself.
The geography of Usak (west coast) is not any different than east. But they don't rebel, do they? Because they are hardworking.
We had a Kurdish president Turgut Ozal. Toprak is a Kurdish man who is the third wealth of Turkey.
Go to France for example: Are you going to see an Algerian president?
This is just so lame what you are trying to do. Stop crying and work like every other Turkish who work like crazy instead of playing bad gammon in the kahves.
2007-07-16 01:42:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 4⤋
Listen Colors efendi,
I don't know whether you are racist or not,but it is obvious that you like talking about the things even if you don't have any slightest idea and information about them and it is also obvious that you hate this country and Turks because your head is full of prejudices and you are highly bigoted .You say you can't live in your country because it is not free despite the fact that millions of Kurdish people,including many of my folks as well,live and can do whatever they like.
As for the Armenian genocide,the Ottoman Empire resolved to exile the Armenians to Syria,because they were colloborating with the Allied Forces(just like the kurds in Iraq are collaborating with America who has killed nearly one million innocent Iraqi people) and armed Armenian groups had killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslim people.Most of the people that Armenians had killed were Kurdish,they were killed because Kurds and Turks were counted as one nation.
Unfortunately,on the way to Syria,the Armenians were attacked and nearly 300 000 armenians were killed by some local Kurdish tribes in order to take revenge.
I am from MuÅ.Many of my folks speak Kurdish and Turkish.
Believe me Kurds and Turks have no any problems here in Turkey,but the problem is in your heads.
''Betrayal does that -- betrays the betrayer.''
2007-07-16 01:31:48 · answer #5 · answered by edd 3 · 6⤊ 4⤋
your questions are not directly racist, but they are provocative
you ask the questions that everyone knows what the answer is
you ask the questions in a way that other people (the ones that do not have any idea about the topic) might misinterpret
i told you in the previous question, if you think you're Turkish and behave like one, then most of the people in Türkiye will welcome you
I never said Türkiye is perfect, but we can be.
why don't you help instead of harming???
2007-07-16 05:12:10 · answer #6 · answered by єуℓüℓ 4 · 4⤊ 2⤋
I wholehearted agree. The Armenian genocide ranks up there with the way Germany dealt with the Jews. I guess Turkey is afraid if they admit to it, they might have to give up some of their territory for a Kurdish homeland.
I also feel there is alot of Americans who do not believe in America's foreign policy and are embarrassed by the Bush Administration.
2007-07-15 18:57:21 · answer #7 · answered by Bocephus 4 · 3⤊ 6⤋
No no..in the question, Colors is saying "every country" meaning...every none 3rd world country (basically, all the european and other economically stable countries that matter). Third world countries have their own problems and cant recognize it, but Colors is right.. Every country (that matters) except the U.S. has recognized it... isnt it time for Turkey to say "sorry".
2007-07-16 11:24:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 4⤋
its wasn't genocide its was a war and both sides killed each other....
that war happend during of Ottoman Empire...and its was kurds and armenians who killed each other.....
Ottoman Turks just exiled armenians to an other (save) place....
and you are talking about genocide.....better just shut your mouth and read history....!!!
do you know what is GENOCIDE means...
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Convention on Genocide states the following:
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts
committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
ethnical, racial or religious group as such:
(a) killing members of the group;
(b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(c) forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
This is what "genocide" means for the purposes of international law.
Legal definition is a very blunt instrument of definition.
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why you dont talk about PKK terroristic attackts...how many pure people they killed...how many childrens,womens they killed....
we have so many SHEHITS....every day our soldiers dies because of PKK terrorists in Easten Part of Turkey....
you are just small nations and big nations just using you...
nobody cares about kurds...you are just good toy and they use you as they wish....
if you dont like human rights in my country then just leave to another country....
btw, I am Ahiska Turk and I love my country....
we dont need any EU .....
they needs us not we!!!!
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For vaheh_2006
kurds was always problem for Turks....
when Ottoman Empire started get down kurds and armenian wanted take a part of Turkiye....and they fight for that....
so there was big crime....that is why Ottoman Turks exiled armenians to another place....!!!!
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I have some quastion here for you. I would be glad if you could answer them....but I am not sure that you could do that....
1) If Armenians has really so serios ducuments about genocide, why they didnt open their archives to everyone???? (instead Turkiye open their historical archives for everyone)!!!! ???
2) Why they stoped TV publication on NTV...where is said that Armenian genocide is lie???
3) Why they bombed house of Jewish Prof.Dr.Standford Shaw because he had serious documents which said that Armenian genocide just was propaganda???
4) Has anyone who voted against Turkey in French Parliament been there at that time to be sure of it happened ? Are they historians ? and why they didnt let historians to discuss about it???
French Parlament said that Armenian issue its not business of historians!!! Politicians will work on it!!!
as you know Politics is never say truth!!! they always use people....
5) who can know history better then historians???
6) do you think that politicians know historry better then historians?
2007-07-16 05:45:42 · answer #9 · answered by Ms.Lady 2 · 6⤊ 4⤋
.....and you are using the Armenian Genocide issue to get even with Turkey....
No wonder you can not not live in here...You say " your army"
Who are we and who are you? and I don't hear you say anything about PKK- the Kurdish rebellions- who has been killing innocent men , women and babies for over 20 years?
If you call OUR army "YOURS", you must be the supporter of "THEM". If you are, then you are a racist. You proved it with your OWN words.
By the way,
IF you are Kurdish origin Turkish citizen, then you should very well know that we don't have any issue with regular Kurdish citizens in Turkey.
Which doubt very much.
2007-07-15 21:06:18 · answer #10 · answered by Ipek K 7 · 8⤊ 5⤋
Based on that comment, you are not a racist. Armenian genocide occurred and the rest of the world knows about it. Many absolutely should hear more about it.
Look up the band System of a Down. These gentlemen are Armenian and they have fought to show the world that Armenian genocide occurred. Each one of the band members have grandfathers who survived that atrocity.
Good luck!
2007-07-15 19:00:04 · answer #11 · answered by Jeremy S 3 · 3⤊ 8⤋