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I've heard it said that god-belief and the notion that god is the source of all creation is not in conflict with the ideas of science and I am in complete disagreement... how about you?

2007-07-15 06:06:22 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Big Papa, Yours appears to be the response that's attempting most directly to answer the question. It's a good response, but I continue to have difficulty with it since you are among the few who adheres to the logic of it.

More people are convinced that creation is more than just a notion of god's desire to make something. Most are willing to believe, (hook line and sinker,) that the universe and the earth were in fact created precisely as it is told in genesis and that it is here that there continues to be a rub.

if it is commonly believed that the bible is a true account of a beginning... how do you respond to the notion that there may not have been a beginning at all? ... what if the universe is, in fact, infinite and both the bible and science have it wrong?

2007-07-16 18:01:44 · update #1

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I am a Catholic and I don't believe that there is any conflict.

If you throw your interpretation of the Bible at me, for instance, I can show you how various church fathers interpreted the same passages. For instance, when Genesis was written, it is doubtful that the target audience actually wanted to know the science behind creation.

Creation is not be thought of as part of God, but as a result, in some way, of His choice to have something exist. How it occurred is a matter of scientific debate.

Perhaps your question is about the nature of God instead?

EDIT EDIT

You probably enjoy the fact that my answers are invariably unpopular with fundamentalists (Jews, Christians, and Muslims).

You are talking about Genesis. Most people -here- are convinced. Creationism is a fringe view, I assure you.

Genesis, creation account. Written by a converted atheist "Moses (hebrew for "saved")" to show that God has made the world ordered and it is good (but NOT "G"ood).

As for if it began? You think that the Earth's always been here and stars never die? Like I said you have to ignore all the science bias you come to the question with. Genesis is a work of literature that also reflects the cycle of life and an agrarian culture.

It is really well done, and it is really old. Atheist literature professors are often impressed enough to teach it or let it be taught in public schools. My Oxford Bible commentary was written, in part, by such individuals.

2007-07-15 06:17:33 · answer #1 · answered by BigPappa 5 · 1 1

you misunderstand the scientific explanation. While we weren't looking, the scientific explanation abandoned cause and effect and went to the random variable. The random variable represents the unknown factors. Back in the dark ages, prior to Quantum Mechanics, we thought that we could, at least in principle, get precise answers and get rid of the random variable. Now we know better. Could God still act through nature? Of course, for example, He could hit the earth with a comet just just the Shoemaker Levy comet that hit Jupiter. We're helpless to predict it.

The major business of theoretical physics over the last 100 years has been to put limits on the capability of physics, e.g., QM, event horizons, black holes and chaos. There will never be a God of the Gaps because the gaps are larger than the universe.

2007-07-15 08:36:42 · answer #2 · answered by Matthew T 7 · 0 1

God-belief and science need not be mutually exclusive. One can have faith that God created the universe and at the same time accept the tenets of science as a means of understanding the physical laws of our universe. Science is an imperfect and constantly evolving model of our physical world, and some would say that it is a way of understanding God. I believe that there will be a continuation of the synthesis of religion and science which has already begun in the minds of some people.

2007-07-15 06:21:25 · answer #3 · answered by dru 3 · 1 2

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2016-09-05 11:10:19 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

More reasonable to believe that the orderliness of the universe (a presupposition without which it would be impossible to do science) is due to order imposed on it by a logical and consistent being than it is to believe that unconscious, unintelligent matter could be self-organizing.

2007-07-15 07:22:53 · answer #5 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 0 1

Science and religion seem to be two sides of the same coin. Science is observing, so it has to be real, tangible, ect. On the other hand religion is more of beliefs. Beliefs aren't known facts, and can't be directly observed.

2007-07-15 06:29:46 · answer #6 · answered by lufiabuu 4 · 1 1

Because people can say that God created the natural processes by which all things were made.

2007-07-15 06:13:38 · answer #7 · answered by Joe S 3 · 2 1

if God created all creatures in the beginning...

...then couldn't God have facilitated their continued evolution...

...and thus still yet facilitate our ideas of sciences as well...


...in the same way that He facilitates your mind to create the questions that I have lovingly answered on this day for you?

2007-07-16 02:11:26 · answer #8 · answered by jamestheprophet 6 · 0 1

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