Trinitarians...?

Question

...who do you worship as your God? Jesus or the trinity (Father, Son, and holy spirit)?

Lulu, Jesus said to his Father, not to him. Matt. 6:9

We pray to the Father thru Jesus.

Jeremy K, where does it say in the Bible that we shoud pray to Jesus or the holy spirit? Jesus said we should pray to the Father, the only true God. (Matt. 6:9; John 17:3)

And don't hide behind web links. If you have something to say, say it.

"The Three are collectively known as the One God in the Bible."

Anna, will you please give me a Bible verse that supports you statement?

Jesus did not say that the trinity is the true God. At John 17:3, he singled out his Father as the only true God.

Where in the Bible are we instructed to pray and worship the holy spirit?

Anna, you say that the three are always God? If that is true, why did neither Jesus nor the holy spirit know "the day and hour"? (Matt. 24:36) How could Jesus be God if he was dead for parts of three days? Was he a dead God?

If the Father is God and the Son is God and the holy spirit is God, isn't that three Gods? Isn't the trinity made up of three "persons?

Jeremy, Jesus is a god or mighty one. At Ps. 82:6, Almighty God Himself refers to imperfect human judges as "gods." Even Satan is called a god at 2 Cor. 4:4. But neither of them should receive our worship. Jesus said at Luke 4:8: "It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service."

Jeremy, if the trinity is true, why don't you give some Biblical proof instead of badmouthing others?

Answer 1

I used to worship the Triune (Trinity) God when I was young and I find it more confusing because I wasn't sure who should I worship to. Maybe 1 or 2 years ago, I finally began to recognize that Trinity doctrine is false and my worship directed to God is much clear than before. So I worship the Most High God ― his name is Jehovah! Psalm 83:18.

Here is good websites exposing the false Trinity.

Answer 2

MANY JEHOVAH WITNESSES GET THIS MIXED UP.

The 'trinity' is not 3 equal parts, at least not defined by the word of God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all different entities but at the same time God with their own functions.

1) The Father- creator and heaven of all that was, is, and to come- nothing or no one is above the Father- PERIOD (words of Jesus Matt 23:9)

2) Holy Spirit - omni present, one is blessed with the holy spirit when you truly accept the salvation of Jesus Christ- guides, convicts one to do what is right.

3) Jesus- the word of God - John 1:14, and savior of all those believing in His sacrifice. JESUS IS THE CENTER OF CHRISTIANITY- HE IS GOD, YOU CANNOT DIG HIM UP.

You CAN dig up Charles Taze Russell- with the pyramid for the a headstone that he personally picked out. When Jesus made a prediction- it became true 100% of the time. Charles Taze Russell predicted the end of the world for 1914- we are still here. He was a MAJOR FALSE PROPHET!

A message to Jehovah Witnesses- you might want to stop leading people into darkenss- there's a special place in hell for that.


Why won't this guy respond to me?

Answer 3

Jesus gave us an example of how to pray, begining with "Our Father, who art in heaven. . . "

Jesus said that whatever we ask the Father, in His name, it will be given us (John 14: 13, 14)

Read the book of Hebrews if you really want to understand Jesus role in our prayers to the Father:

He is our High Priest (Heb. 4:14-16; 6:20; 7:3)
Our Mediator (Heb. 8:6)
Our intercessor (Heb. 7:25; Rom. 8: 34; 1 John 2:1)

Answer 4

Well, if we're Trinitarians, who do you think?

We don't worship just Jesus. We worship GOD (three as ONE) We don't worship any one of the three as an individual but GOD the three as one.

God is God -- Jesus is God -- Holy Spirit is God
NOTICE I did not say God is Jesus.

NATRGRL -- We do pray to him sometimes and usually when you pray to God, you're praying to his other forms too.

Any JWs should look here: http://www.biblicalanswers.net/docs/ev04287_ets2004.pdf

EDIT:

It's much deeper than you think. Jesus was alive back then there was no need to pray to him when you could walk up and talk to him. The Holy Spirit has a job, do you know what it is? Can you not ask him for things? He's the Teacher, can you learn from a teacher if you don't ask questions?

UPDATE:

"If the Father is God and the Son is God and the holy spirit is God, isn't that three Gods? Isn't the trinity made up of three "persons?" -- RESPONSE: As of JWs YOU are the ones that claim more than one God (John 1:1) calls Jesus a "god." WE don't believe in three DIFFERENT Gods. Just ONE God. One is Almighty, Human, and Spirit.

Answer 5

they worship all but only pray to Jesus and God. Was weird to me as a child that is why I dont belive it anymore. Always wondered why they dont pray to Holy Spirit.

Answer 6

I worship God. Everything I ask of God I ask in Jesus' name. The Holy Spirit's desire is that we don't worship Him but that we worship God.

Answer 7

Just wanted to say thank you to all those who disbelieve in the trinity for the verses that reinforce even more that this teaching isn't from God.
I looked into the origins of the trinity & know it isn't right but it's nice to have biblical verses too. Thanks.

Answer 8

God the Father. We pray to Jesus, who intercedes for us to God. I'm not a theologian though, and probably did not explain that to be better understood. ;p

Answer 9

1. JEHOVAH - JEHOVAH is the ALMIGHTY God (Psalms 83:18)
2. Jesus -Son of Jehovah God
3. Holy Spirit- the active force of Jehovah.

**There's no Trinitarians in the bible...

Answer 10

The only trinity I've found in the bible is:

Harper’s Bible Dictionary

Baal / Bel ,

translates into English as Lord

offspring of El, (Hebrew for God)

worshiped as a triad / trinity.

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Where did I hear this teaching recently?

Sounds like a teaching of Satan, What do you think?

Who is fulfilling this prophecy?

(Jeremiah 23:27) 27 They are thinking of making my people forget my name by means of their dreams that they keep relating each one to the other, just as their fathers forgot my name by means of Ba´al.

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Anna, If you would continue reading in John 17, you will find that Jesus give his glory (the glory, he had prior to coming to the earth) to his disciples. Something Jehovah said he would never do.

John 17:22"The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;

Christians become one with each other the same as Christ is one with Jehovah.

23I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity

Christians become one in unity, not as one individual.

Christians are united with each other
Christians are united with Christ
Christ is united with his God (Rev 3:12),
Christians are united with Jesus' God.

21that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

John 10:29"My Father, . . ., is greater than all; . . .

30"I and the Father are one."

Are one what?

32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?"

The context is that Jesus and his Father are one in works.

Jesus' godship is that of human judges

34Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'?

35"If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),

36do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?


Jesus denied being God Almighty, but taught that he is God's Son.

Jesus said he was one with God in works, the same as Christians.




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