Someone asked me...if Jesus was God how did he die on the Cross?

Question

your thoughts?

Alot of great answers already...awesome.

For the person that inquired....I'd just like to see what is a good answer to give, when people that are non-Christians ask me.

Answer 1

Jesus,is the son of god,who was good,His love was so great he died on that cross. so you could live life knowing you were special enough,he took your sins and went into the pit's of hell so you wont have to. his love i that much..HELL sometimes i think i ain't worth that much...but he thinks i am......no greater love have i experienced...except his

Answer 2

If i say this i know i wont be getting many thumbs up but here it goes:
I think that, after reading people's answer to this questions, that even Christians cannot really be in agreement on whether Jesus was God OR the son of God. So just with this it makes things complicated.
If you say that he died for our sins, when why are you trying to live a righteous life, since you past and future sins are forgiven by the sacrifice of the Christ, i mean this goes against the principle of faith and obedience of God's law. You have the responsability of this life and of your deeds, how do you expect to be judged in the end? God is the All Merciful, it means that whoever turns to Him in repentance, with sincerity and promises to not sin again he will be forgiven.
Have you lost your faith in His mercy? He does not need to sacrifice one of His greatest prophets to teach you a lesson. Jesus came with the message of God and it should have sufficed in some way. I do believe in Jesus as a great messenger and prophet, I view him with a lot of respect but I don´t believe he died this miserably, but he did indeed arose to our Creator. This should actually teach us a lesson about His merciful power.
But anyways, I guess that Christianity is so deeply dependent on Jesus' death that what I say will not really matter. However I think that people should be open to have a different angle in their practice of God and monotheism in general.
Have a nice day and continue to love Him with sincerity.

Peace to you

Answer 3

If Jesus were indeed God, then there was no sacrafice because God is the beginning and the end, therefore could not die unless everything in existence died first.

This leads to two thoughts, either Jesus was God and did not die, or Jesus was not god and did die. Personally, I think it would be a good idea to ask a Jew or two about the nature of their God. You'll find that the God they worship is completely different from the gods worshipped in christianity. Their God never required a human sacrifice in order to forgive people. As a matter of fact, their god said that no one could atone for the sins of anyone else, you're accountable for your own transgression, and required to make your own atonement with not just God, but the people you offended too.

I'm not a beleiver, but I would take the Jewish God over the christian god any day (simply because I'm a Gentile, and the laws I have to live by are so easy I don't need to open a book to know or live by them, they're common sense).

Answer 4

God can not die, the Bible assures us. It also assures us in God's own words that NO ONE can see him and yet live. Christ died on the stake, the son of the Living God, NOT God.

People don't want to remember that part of the whole exercise was to prove that a human could follow God's laws perfectly, and then after showing this, offer that perfect life as a ransom for all man kind. Now, had Christ actually been God in human form what was the point? There was no 'test' there. Had Jesus been God, it's a foregone conclusion that the outcome would be perfect. That negates the whole idea of the test. If Jesus were God, what was the point of his prayers, his earnest prayers to his Father? Wouldn't his being God make that a hypocritical act?

Why was it all the demons and satan himself knew and called Jesus, 'son of God'?

Matt. 8:29 And, look! they screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?

Mark 1:. 23 Also, at that immediate time there was in their synagogue a man under the power of an unclean spirit, and he shouted, 24 saying: “What have we to do with you, Jesus you Naz·a·rene´? Did you come to destroy us? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God.” 25 But Jesus rebuked it, saying: “Be silent, and come on out of him!”

Then we have Matt. 3:. 16 After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”

Seems awfully clear to me. Jesus was the Son of the Living God.

Answer 5

This is a major problem isn't it.

God can't be killed, so therefore it wasn't God on the cross being killed.

The Christians say that the "God" part of Jesus left him at the moment of his death, and therefore it was only his human part that actually died.

However, this leaves us with a major malfunction.

If it was only his human part that died, then we are left with nothing more than a HUMAN VIRGIN BLOOD sacrifice for sin.

This of course, is an abomination to God.

This is what the ancient pagans did, this is what the Mayans and the Aztecs did, this is what the Baal worshippers did, and indeed ancient pagan religions is where the Christians got the concept in the first place. Not from Judaism.

Do you know that in Judaism there has NEVER existed the concept that the Messiah is to be born of a virgin and a god, nor that he is to serve as some sort of human/god virgin human blood sacrifice for sin for the world? Nor that he would be a "god/man", nor descend into the underworld for 3 days, nor rise again, nor come back a second time to get the job done right since he didn't fulfill the prophecies the first time?

The Messiah is to be born in the usual way between a married Jewish man and woman, he is completely human, GOD performs any miracles that need doing while the Messiah is ruling from the rebuilt 3rd Temple in Jerusalem, and the Messiah lives a long life, marries, and has sons to whom he leaves an inheritance.

He fulfills the original (and ONLY) 16 or so prophecies given by God for him to fulfill, including an end to war, and end to illness, and end to injustice. Universal knowledge of God so that no man needs to ever teach (or argue with) another ever again. All the Jews ingathered to Israel, 3rd Temple rebuilt, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Jesus didn't fulfill any of this. In fact, the 2nd Temple was still standing and the Jews were thrown OUT of the land by the Romans. Jesus taught against the Torah, to break its laws, while speaking out of the other side of his mouth saying that the law was eternal.

Actually there is no documentation anywhere from the time he supposedly lived, that even mentions him. The Jews in Israel never heard of him, and most of the Jews at that time lived outside of Israel - and they never heard of him either. There are no writings anywhere from the time he was supposed to have lived, that mention him, not in Roman documents, not in Jewish documents, not in any country in the world. There are two fraudulent mentions, one in Josephus and one in Tacticus. Josephus has been proven to be an absolute out and out fraud, someone inserted the mention there because of this very problem. The one in Tacticus is very problematic because it doesn't match his style nor is it correct in what it says, and has been ruled as a fraud more than likely.

So that's two whole mentions, one a total fraud and the other most likely a fraud. Two mentions. Of the Messiah for the entire world??

To learn where the Christians came up with the idea of their Jesus, virgin births, gods impregnating virgins, human sacrifices for sin, rising again after going to the underworld for a set amount of days, etc. etc. go here and be sure to read the chapter on "ancient god/men" in the Table of Contents. It does a good job of putting together in one place many of the ancient mythologies from which Christianity took the concept:

http://www.drazin.org

To learn about the REAL Jewish messiah, go here:


http://www.aish.com/spirituality/philoso...

http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.htm...

http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm

http://shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/html/fa...

http://www.beingjewish.com/toshuv/whynot...

http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=1...

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/

EDIT: To Judy ET. I don't know what "complete Jewish bible" you claim to have there, but it isn't in any way, shape, or form the actual Jewish bible. What you have there is either the Christian bible, or a massive perversion of the Jewish bible. Which are actually the same things, come to think of it.

Answer 6

The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus took on human flesh - He became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.

Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6; 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one person or personality.

The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine that we are incapable of fully understanding. It is impossible for us to fully understand how God works. We, as finite human beings, should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God. Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). But that does not mean Jesus did not exist before He was conceived. Jesus always has existed (John 8:58; 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1,14).

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being so that He could identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns.

Answer 7

He voluntarily gave up His life, yielded up His Spirit, to accept God's punishment for all our sins so that we could be forgiven.

Else He could not have died.

It was the only way that perfect Justice could be perfectly satisfied to enable the guilty to be forgiven and absolved.

Otherwise forgiveness would have offended against justice and would therefore have offended against God's perfection.

It clearly is not right that imperfection should impose upon Perfection. God cannot allow imperfection in His Presence to corrupt either Him or all other created beings and so destroy Heaven.

God, being perfect, could do no less to accomplish our salvation. There was no other way.

Such is the magnitude of God's love that He chose to do this for our sakes.

This shows indeed the glory of God which we have fallen so far short of.

That He should suffer the infinite punishment of Hell in His infinite Nature that we might be delivered from that unending punishment in our finite natures that we might be restored to the glory of God is the greatest thing in the entire universe and all creation.

How any can pass by, sleight or reject such glory is beyond comprehension.


Such is the magnitude of sin.

That our sin condemned Christ to such suffering for our salvation and then for any to treat it so lightly - what does that make them?

Is it not right that they should be treated as they have treated?

Punishment then is inevitable and rightly deserved.

Yet still God is merciful and His hand is yet stretched out all day.

Yet still there may be opportunity. Now is the time of salvation. Today is the day of grace.

Let us fly to God for His mercy and worship Him for His glory.

Answer 8

This is amazing!

In the 1975 film: "The Man Who Would Be King" with Sean Connery, the climax centers on the natives discovering that he could bleed and therefore could not be god.

The irony seems to be ignored in the film. If God has a sense of irony and literature, it seems he has given us the choice of following the good or the powerful.

Many choose God for his power and are disappointed. How many choose Him simply because He is good?

Answer 9

In Philippians 2:7, Paul wrote that Jesus “emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.” He became obedient to the will of the Father, even unto death, even the death on the Cross.

Answer 10

The someone who asked was either a loony attempting to get you into a mood for conversion to Christianity... or you are the loony attempting to attract unsuspecting victims for the same purpose... or you were both loonies looking to bolster your shared mental disorder, (not so differently than the bulk of gathered responders of this question are doing)... or both of you were non-believers, safe from harms-way, and telling jokes about the nonsense of god-belief and having a good time.

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