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I just want to know why, I don't want to be told he exists by his name, or he exists just because he's god. How old were you when you stopped believing in santa? What if i told you its a lie and he's really real you just have to believe in him to get something, and the next day good luck strikes and i say it was santa. I mean, most of you seem pretty intelligent but talk about god and its like you are on brainwash mode. Why? you know why the world turns, you know things evolve, they're changing right in front of our eyes, and adapting to the world, I've physically seen things pre-evolved that were casted away from evolving areas, but have never come across a spiritual experience, and i would absolutely love to if someone tells me how. I've tried every religion and found lies in all. lies that can be very easily proven. I really truly don't want to believe there's no afterlife, but i can either lie to myself or face the facts.

2007-07-15 02:23:23 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

well, atheists do prove their belief. Now its your turn

2007-07-15 02:28:34 · update #1

mr. deity? the all knowing creator is what im referring to. The thought that one entity created and knows us all to bring us to enlightenment. And for the last time atheist are all about proof. You just need to open your eyes, its all around you. How many ribs do you have? Can you count them? Now count one from an opposite sex, and a few others. Hmmm somethings not right here?

2007-07-15 02:34:09 · update #2

That joy comes from the hypothalamus. It's in the middle of your brain and regulates all emotion. If it were damaged you would look at your husband and maybe want to kill him with rage for sitting there.

2007-07-15 02:38:00 · update #3

ok i listened to a few things by William Lane Craig, Hugh Ross, and Ravi Zacharius but how am i supposed to believe what they say when all they do is talk about what they've done. None of them had actual evidence, yet listening to a documentary on evolution, has video, pictures, actual studies done right on tape.

2007-07-15 02:54:52 · update #4

yes i listened to Ravi Zacharius and needed more than that. just like i read the documentaries of charles darwin and wanted more proof, but this case i found it.

2007-07-15 03:23:29 · update #5

actually we can make perfect specimens but the law forbids it thanks to religious acts. We can clone and read the dna, afterwards they find flaws that the dna test proposed and fix them, and then they clone. It is possible to make the perfect person immune to all diseases. Some countries are doing this under extreme government secrecy.

2007-07-15 16:08:20 · update #6

19 answers

My belief or otherwise in God, afterlife, or anything else is mine. So long as I make no claim to its veracity or ask any one else to believe what I believe, what matters it to any one else?

I believe that there is a Universal Awareness, that is timeless, silent, That just IS. Merger into and abiding as That is possible once the ego-mind-body is destroyed.

There is no heaven, hell, or afterlife, or eternity. Just the present.

Regrettably, no proof whatsoever either.

2007-07-15 06:15:05 · answer #1 · answered by A.V.R. 7 · 0 0

Because I believe it is more likely that:
1) the universe is orderly (a presupposition without which it would be impossible to do science) due to order imposed on it by a logical and consistent being than it is that unconscious, unintelligent matter could be self-organizing;
2) I received my consciousness from a being that had some to give because it itself was conscious than from unconscious matter (furthermore, if my consciousness is only illusory, then there has to be something that is perceiving this illusion. How could it be the matter itself if the matter doesn't have any consciousness?);
3) I received my intelligence in a similar manner (on the other hand, if my intelligence is merely the byproduct of chemical reactions, then how could I rely on it when I have no idea whether the perception of reality that the chemical reactions give me really correspond to that reality?);
4) my free will, my sense of beauty, and my sense of morality seem real because they are real and not just illusory. Note that I'm not saying that atheists cannot believe in these things, but rather that I have to see an explanation of how they can be logically consistent with an atheistic outlook.

2007-07-15 04:16:55 · answer #2 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 0 0

Well, if you're asking for evidence, nobody can give you some undisputed evidence.
On my narrow, personal level, yes, I have seen, experienced and received evidence. Although what is evidence for me would probably mean nothing for you, so I can't really give you a satisfactory answer to your question.
However, if you ask pagan people who were christian and converted, they will all tell you that pagan gods interact with humans much more, they make themselves felt, they make their actions seen, they manifest...
If personal experience and evidence of many people, however subjective and immeasurable it is, means anything to you at all... then I guess there is proof of his existence.

However... what gods are defined by is belief into them. Solid proof and evidence negate belief, because you can't believe in something that you KNOW exists. You don't believe in the postman that brings you mail, do you? You see him every morning and you know he's there.
However, gods, without belief, aren't gods. Belief is all they are about.


Just for the record, I was a skeptic atheist and it took a long time for all the little bits of evidence to convince me there was something more. I'm Norse heathen now.

2007-07-15 04:47:48 · answer #3 · answered by Ymmo the Heathen 7 · 0 0

I believe in God, because I simply cannot believe that the universe, right down to the microscopic bits of dust could have just came from an accident. It is so vast. How could all of that work with out a master designer? And I do believe that things change and evolve, I think God put it into motion and let it start living.

Now, I also believe that I have had many spiritual experiences in my life. I don't know why you haven't. I considered many things in my life to be spiritual.

That joy when I look at my husband, and the birth of my children and grandchildren. That their success makes me so happy. Those are emotions given to me by God.

but mostly I believe in God because of the life changing things that He has done in my life. The very fact that I can stand in his presence. And that is something that you have to experience for your self, I cannot explain it for you.

blessings, vicki

2007-07-15 02:35:31 · answer #4 · answered by 2ndchhapteracts 5 · 0 0

Its alot of stuff to answer but I will try to give you a sincere answer from my experience.Obviously many people believe in God because its what they were taught their whole lives and just because He is God. But I think there should be better reasons. The reason I believe in God is because too many things have happened in my life that direct me to believe.

I will admit that I NEEDED PROOF. I have been raised by a christian mom and a catholic dad although the catholic side of the family is prevalent. But honestly most are not devout infact some are borderline atheist. Its a mexican thing haha. Anyways I chose neither of their beliefs. I became non-denominational christian not because I was broken or sad. But I just felt like trying it. It seeme like everything that I SEE only proved the existence of God for me. Yes I have studied the evolution and big bang theory but I personally find it harder to believe in those than to believe in God. Im just not convinced that we come from apes although I DO AGREE that we are very similar. And as for big bang I cant just believe that every kind of tree,animal,person,food etc... could just explode into existence. It would be like saying a computer can build itself spontaneously.
Over the last nine years I have followed God according to the Bible not what some person tells me although there are times when I agree with what some preachers have to say. One of those years I gave up on God only to come back because nothing else made me happy. Strange as it may sound.

Anyways I to encountered many lies in the christian faith but all those lies came from people not God. People can find ways to twist the word of God into something thats convenient for them rather than what is true. Im not saying im perfect but the Bible is one thing I will not twist. Unfortunately lies will be encountered in every religion but you just have to do some searching and figure out for yourself whats real.

I know its HARD TO BELIEVE especially with all the religions out there and all the scientific advancements but even scientists who are not believers question their own theories. Science is afterall just trying to explain life but even science has failed. So its all about faith.

Facts are fallable so is religion but honestly thats why im not into religion. Im into God and following what He says in the Bible. It has been the only true constant in my life. I have had questions about the Bible but the more I read and I mean truly read the more I see how verses intertwine and dont clash. Anyways thats just my belief. I do believe in God and an afterlife. It just takes faith.

p.s. If you really let God work in your life I do believe you will have a spiritual encounter. But dont always expect some big thunderous voice. Its almost never like that. But youll know when its happened. It can come as a whisper, dream, an everyday thing, and sometimes a vision. Oh and as for Santa Claus well I caught my dad putting gifts under the tree when I was 5 so I gave him up haha. Hope this is the straightforward answer you were looking for.

2007-07-15 03:46:17 · answer #5 · answered by pony 3 · 0 0

People who need evidence (in any god) would probably be better served looking into naturalism as a world view. There is no empirical evidence that can be relied upon to justify "proof" of God. It is a matter of belief, relying on testimony, and 2000+ year old texts written by other believers (and, which, I might add, has been added to and edited by other believers), and feelings, and inspiration.

2007-07-15 03:21:53 · answer #6 · answered by the_way_of_the_turtle 6 · 1 0

Yes I believe in God.
I was as a child raised Lutheran.
As a young man I was an agnostic (not atheist)
Now in my forties I have looked into myself and discovered God has been with me all my life. God is as much a part of me as I am a part of Him.
What had been the problem for me was how mans interpretation of God has been distorted by religion, some much more then others.
I truly feel we must look inside ourselves to find God.

2007-07-15 02:36:22 · answer #7 · answered by FishEater 2 · 1 0

Your question sounded like you wanted philosophical proof -
W.L. Craig, R. Zacharius.

To say that evolution from molecules to man has been proven is making a very uninformed statement.

It is impossible to "prove" we were created - only possible to look at the evidence that evolution from molecules to man is impossible.
Adaption and natural selection are not disputed by any intelligent believer in creation.
But selecting from EXISTING genetic information is very different from gaining NEW informtion.

www.reasons.org is a good one for science.

For the young earth view go to
www.answersingenesis.org
The may be too fundy but they use PHD Scientists for their critique of evolution.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/evolution-or-adaptation

Take this description of vision:
Vision is a vastly complicated highly organized living electrical machine.
It produces an ultra high resolution three dimensional moving color pictures with instant automatic focus, instantaneous execution with no perceptible delay between the occurrence and the perception, low light compensation, a mechanism for self-repair, self-defense against infection, and nerves that create the exactly the right amount of electricity needed to translate colors into non-physical electrical code and transmit these codes to the brain.
The brain receives the code transmitted by 12,000,000 constantly changing optic nerves. There are 6,000,000 separate nerves in each eye and 12,000,000 entry ports. Each nerve transmits 1/6,000,000th of the "picture" that is focused on the retina at any one moment. And each time the eyes move, all 6,000,000 codes instantly change.
"No device in a publishing system is capable of reproducing the full range of colors viewable to the human eye. Each device operates within a specific color space, which can produce a certain range, or gamut, of colors." Instructions in Adobe Photoshop relating to colors.
The three dimensional property of our vision is created by the use of two different eyes
instead of one. The brain receives two different groups of 6,000,000 constantly changing
codes from each eye - two different pictures of the same object. The brain must then take
these signals and synthesize them instantly and create a moving three dimensional picture.
The 6,000,000 nerve endings are divided into three different groups that respond to the three primary colors of light. There are 2,000,000 that respond to red light, 2,000,000 that respond to yellow light and 2,000,000 that respond to blue light.
In order to colorize the moving picture, the brain must translate12,000,000 constantly changing color codes from the three primary colors to create a palate of millions of different colors that precisely reflect the actual color of an external reality to which the eye is not connected. All this is done by means of an electrical code in the space of nanoseconds.
How did all this happen? Some of the most respected scientists on the earth actually say that "Mother Nature" did it.
How far does one have to stretch the survival of the fittest in order to account for millions upon millions of discrete and accurate colors? Why is the accurate perception of millions of colors necessary for survival?
There is no such thing as "Mother Nature." And it is illogical to conclude that a mechanism like the eye is the result of trillions of extremely fortunate accidents - in practically every animal on earth.

2007-07-15 05:29:53 · answer #8 · answered by D2T 3 · 0 0

First define "god".
Then you can prove to me that he/she/it doesn't exist.
You cannot say that something does not exist if you don't know what it is.

Atheists have proven nothing. I reiterate, you cannot prove that something does not exist if you can't define it.

Oh, and the atheist argument that "you can't prove a negative" is hogwash. You certainly can prove a negative. If a person was born without a nose, it certainly can be proven that they don't have a nose. I can also prove that unicorns don't exist, because a unicorn is defined.

Okay, so you now have given your definition of "god". First you must prove that your defintion of "god" is correct. Then you can work on proving that "god" doesn't exist. So far, you have proven nothing.

I think it would be better to just admit that humans cannot conceive of what "god" might be, that we have a long way to go in our evolution and progress, but that is just me.

2007-07-15 02:29:21 · answer #9 · answered by Mystine G 6 · 1 3

Read or listen to anything from:
William Lane Craig
Hugh Ross
Ravi Zacharius
and you might START to understand my reasoning - and yes I mean reasoning.

2007-07-15 02:31:19 · answer #10 · answered by G 4 · 1 0

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