Have the voters made any mistakes over the years?
2007-07-14 11:34:59 · 14 answers · asked by Jason 3 in Sports ➔ Baseball
Make a good case for your choice.
2007-07-14 11:36:09 · update #1
I think the Veteran's committee has made more mistakes than the voters. There are guys like Bill Mazeroski and Phil Rizzuto who don't deserve to be there, nor does Hack Wilson, who was really only known for that one great season of 191 RBI. He only had a few other good years.
If it wasn't for the home run, no one would even be talking about Mazeroski in the hall. Yes he was a great defensive player, but so was Mark Belanger, and how many people think he should be in the HOF?
2007-07-14 12:35:47 · answer #1 · answered by koreaguy12 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Bill Mazeroski was the best defensive second baseman I have ever seen bar none. Unfortunately, brilliant defense does not get one into the HOF nor recognized by the general baseball fan. Mention Bill Mazeroski to someone and they talk about the home run. Ask them to mention something else about Mazeroski and the silence is deafening. Have the voters made mistakes? A case for that could be made with many that have been elected or not elected. The HOF is a popularity contest, plain and simple. Subjective analysis by those that get paid to WRITE about the game. Since I cannot be concerned about those things I can't control, I have created my own HOF. And the only criteria for entering is the answer to one question. If I had one game to win, would I want that player on my team? With Mazeroski, the answer is a no brainer. So Mazeroski is in. Easily.
2007-07-14 20:20:05 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
#1 that should not be there (and it's before anyone's time so I don't expect to get a lot of votes) is Elmer Flick.
Flick was a speedy outfielder that played 13 years from 1898-1910 for Philadelphia and Cleveland.
He was known as a solid hitter (almost always over .300) and was always among the lead leaders in stolen bases (led the league twice) and triples (led the league 3 times).
Other than batting average (ranks #79 all-time) and triples (#30 all-time) he DOES NOT rank in the top 100 in any other offensive category.
Here are his career totals for 13 years:
.313 average 1,752 hits 950 R 48 HR's 756 RBI 330 SB
Nice career, but not anywhere near HOF status.
2007-07-14 19:54:28 · answer #3 · answered by Mitchell . 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Pick one from 1944 thru 1946 the Baseball Writers did not pick one single solitary ball player and the Veterans Committee in those years picked 22 ball players the most distinguished were Kenesaw Mountain Landis, and the Famous Double Play Team of Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
2007-07-14 20:04:30 · answer #4 · answered by johnny z 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The writers have been very good gatekeepers. Among recent honorees, I doubt I would have voted for Puckett, but I can see how got in -- gave good quote, was quite a good player, and was so darn cute.
The veterans committee -- the old one, not the new one, which has elected no one at all -- was rife with horsetradin' and had zero accountability. The worst was in the 60s and early 70s when Frankie Frisch was chair, as he ushered in many of his old teammates -- good players, but not really Hall-class players.
Most of the really eye-rolling honorees have come through the old, now-disbanded VC. No harshing on the writers, they've maintained their cred.
2007-07-14 19:22:28 · answer #5 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Tons, especially if you go back to the first wave of inductees. My Worst choice- Bill Mazeroski, (career avg. 260, 138 HR, 2000+ hits.
The only reason he's in the HOF is because of a big HR he hit in the World Series. So, I guess that means guys like Ed Sprague and Scott Brosious are shoo-ins.
2007-07-14 18:37:31 · answer #6 · answered by c7music1 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Bill Mazeroski. He only went in because of the home run that he hit in the World Series against the Yankees. That is his only claim to fame.
2007-07-14 20:51:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think they all belong in the Hall if they were voted in. Maybe some more than others. I most like to see Pete Rose in the Hall. He was a truly great player not so great in his personal life. The Hall of Fame should be reserved to honor great players and managers of the game of baseball.
2007-07-14 19:36:14 · answer #8 · answered by Ray D dog 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I just asked a question about Fisk and Carter.
How about Mazarosky?
Lots of others.
2007-07-14 18:47:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm pretty sure Mazeroski made it in on the strengh of ONE big homer he had in his career... otherwise, his numbers just are not worthy.
2007-07-14 18:40:02 · answer #10 · answered by Eho 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋