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Including immigrants, legal and illegal?

So, if you import 8 million extremely poor people, people with limited skills, limited English-speaking ability, and unlikely to get a high-paying job or a job that pays health insurance, those people are INCLUDED as "Americans" for purposes of the Census Bureau and BLS surveys -

- - - so when they report that the number of poor Americans or Americans without healthcare goes up, then unless that number is 8 million (and it's closer to 1/3 of that), the increase DOES NOT MEAN THAT PEOPLE ARE MOVING DOWN OR LOSING HEALTH BENEFITS ON A LARGE SCALE, RATHER IT MEANS PEOPLE ARE MOVING UP, JUST BEING REPLACED WITH NEW POOR PEOPLE.

If "Americans" means citizens, then there aren't more "poor Americans" - there are just more poor Mexicans living in America.

Kick them out, let them stay - do what you want about them, but Libs please STOP using their numbers to make false claims about the broader economy.

2007-07-14 09:13:42 · 5 answers · asked by truthisback 3 in Politics & Government Politics

Bombs - again, not saying kick them out. Not addressing that question - - if you want me to, I'll address it: let them stay but don't give them govt-funded benefits, since they don't pay taxes. I rather like their effect on the culture, the Latinos are just like me - they love beer, soccer, baseball, the great outdoors and curvy women.

But that's not the issue - the issue is that they're generally poor thus their presence drives up the poverty numbers. Then the Libs use the fact that poverty isn't going down in the absolute to indict the current economic policies, when in fact they're an indictment of the current immigration policies and, if you do the math, you realize that the economics are good.

2007-07-14 10:39:25 · update #1

5 answers

Yes i did know that.Thank you for pointing this out and it is a very good question.

2007-07-14 09:18:30 · answer #1 · answered by ♥ Mel 7 · 4 1

Yes, and don't forget-those numbers are also used for congressional apportoinment. As the number of US House seats is fixed at 435, reapportionment means that if a given state gains a House district, another state must lose one. If (illegal alien non-citizens are counted in the decennial Census upon which districts are apportioned, then states with larger illegal alien populations are likely to end up with more districts and therefore more representation in the House. This effectively dilutes the votes of citizens in states having relatively low populations of illegal aliens. Reapportionment weighted by the presence of illegal alien noncitizens is notably unfair to American citizens (both natural-born and naturalized), and clearly violates the principle of "one man, one vote".

2007-07-14 09:35:30 · answer #2 · answered by Cherie 6 · 0 0

From working in local and state government the whole census system is a game now. Cities, like my hometown, challenge these stats each time they come out so they can get on different federal and state funding sources. The results are never correct and all always in flux. It seems like no one believes them anymore.

2007-07-14 09:46:41 · answer #3 · answered by ALASPADA 6 · 0 0

Yes. And it is disengenious for you to blame it all on "libs" when cons are the ones that employ most illegal aliens.

2007-07-14 09:29:13 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I have to say many numbers used by liberals are doctored.

2007-07-14 09:19:46 · answer #5 · answered by RICARDVS 4 · 3 1

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