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I mean... Atheists are always preaching "science" and "logic" to christians.
Well how about this atheists.... The Bible was there first! The Bible was written thousands of years before your puny science books, AND it was written by God.

The Holy men that were the vessels God's word in writing the Bible were simple superstitious people, who would have believed anything they were told, and yet, because GOd told them what to write, they were able to explain how we got here. No "evolution".

You atheists talk about Charles Darwin! But he wasn't inspired by God!!! He merely used science, logic and common sense to discover his so called "evolution". But the Bible was written thousands of years ago before any modern science was invented, when people were scared and superstitious and would have believed anything they were told. Yet the Bible explains the origin of man millenia before Darwin! Ha!

If you actually read the Bible, you might understand that logic has no place in religion.

2007-07-13 16:14:12 · 33 answers · asked by irishcharmer84 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Some recorded calenders that are based on forms of science are far older then the bible...so sorry, you are wrong.


Edit: Trust me...I fully understand that many like you seem to think that logic has no place in your religion...that's why it's so silly.

2007-07-13 16:17:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6 0

I'm neither an Atheist, an Agnostic, nor a Theist and although I quasi-agree with your statement regarding logic and religion, I highly disagree with your overall statement.
First, I was raised as a Fundamentalist, Conservative, Free-Will Baptist by my mom (my dad tends to be more Calvinist-although Baptist as well), and for me, it was my desire to be a "better Christian" that I sat down and ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE! - But that's actually what drove me away from it! I was taught that I had to take it as "inspired," literally true and all that yadda yadda, etc... BUT oh, the inconsistencies, the contradictions, the evil of the deity himself, etc... I knew that I had been misled!
Science explains the workings of the material world... just as you said that "logic has no place in religion" - religion has no place in logic!!! You wouldn't let a CPA perform brain surgery on you would you??? So why allow a theologian to tell you about geology, biology, mathematics, physics, etc???!!!???
The oldest book of the Bible is Job which is said to have been written somewhere between Solomon and the Babylonian Captivity (thus far it's still hard to nail down a date) <950-597 BCE>. The Bible, as is known today, is actually the work of EZRA THE SCRIBE (see links below)... Modern SCIENCE originated with Thales of Miletus (624 –ca. 546 BCE), but actually has roots much further back. And, while the people of Judea and the Biblical editors were believing in a flat, three-layer cake earth, the Greek geographer/astronomer Eratosthenes (276 -194 BCE), measured the circumference of the earth within 1-2% degree of error!!!
Charles Darwin was about to go to seminary before his famed trip to the Galapagos Islands!!!
The next time you get sick and have to go to the pharmacy, doctor, or hospital - remember all that SCIENCE that is used to make you better - maybe even save your life!!!
HA!!! - ad infinitum!!!

2007-07-13 16:41:02 · answer #2 · answered by Cognitive Dissident ÜberGadfly 3 · 0 0

I guess YOU would be surprised at how many atheists have read the Bible.




The idea that all revealed truth is to be found in "66 books" is not only not in Scripture, it is contradicted by Scripture (1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 2 Thessalonians 3:6, 1 Timothy 3:15, 2 Peter 1:20-21, 2 Peter 3:16). It is a concept unheard of in the Old Testament, where the authority of those who sat on the Chair of Moses (Matthew 23:2-3) existed. In addition to this, for 400 years, there was no defined canon of "Sacred Scripture" aside from the Old Testament; there was no "New Testament"; there was only Tradition and non-canonical books and letters.




Protestants claim the Bible is the only rule of faith, meaning that it contains all of the material one needs for theology and that this material is sufficiently clear that one does not need apostolic tradition or the Church’s magisterium (teaching authority) to help one understand it. In the Protestant view, the whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible’s pages. Anything extraneous to the Bible is simply non-authoritative, unnecessary, or wrong—and may well hinder one in coming to God.

Catholics, on the other hand, recognize that the Bible does not endorse this view and that, in fact, it is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself—is Scripture plus apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.

2007-07-17 10:26:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Oh, come on. Here it goes again. Another anti-atheist. Why do the people like you group all the Atheists together and blame them for not believing what you do?

If you read the Bible that well, you should have had noticed that it does not allow you to blame other people. Do you see it now? You have sinned by posting this question the way you did. Just why do you think people should follow you to the same church you go to? Why does it make you happy if they do follow you?

The First Amendment of The U.S. Constitution says: "People of America are free to practice any religion or no religion at all" - it's that simple and yet, to me, it is by far more important than what the Bible says.

No, I am not a Christian. I don't believe in whatever Darvin had said either - that makes no sence to me. By the way, his theory was proven to be wrong a while ago.

I am a Realist. I believe in whatever makes absolute sense. And no, I don't believe everything I see on TV - you know the modern technology: all those computer effects and so on.

"Where do you think everything has come from?" - is that not one of your major arguments you use when you talk to the Atheists? I was asked that question quite a few times; they thought I was a pure blind Atheist who's gone nuts reading science books. Reading what? The Big Bang Theory? Guess what? It did not convince me either. And no, I did not go nuts about it.

I don't care where did it all come from. You think of the Genesis, right? Go on, believe that. If that makes you happy, believe that. I don't care how it all began. And the fact that "I don't care" makes me happy. Maybe the Genesis is true (MAYBE); maybe the Big Bang Theory is true (MAYBE). Maybe's don't work for me, for I am the Realist. Something has to be or sound 100% true in order for me to believe in it. It has to be something that there can be no "maybe" about. Can you say: "The grass MAYBE green"? Huh? It is green. It is not red, nor it is purple, nor it is spotty, but it is green. That is one absolute fact, which does not require any proof. There are a great many other facts my, the Realist's, life is filled with.

Yet I can still disagree hundreds of times with what Bible says . You would possibly say one word: "Miracles" - miracles? Modern doctors can bring a man back to life if he died no longer than 30 minutes ago. It is impossible to do it later, because his brain is dead from then on. And you would try to convince me that someone, who'd been dead for a few days, stood up, started breathing, and walked out of the room. No way. That man's body started to smell, because his body started to decay... and bang he is alive again. Miracles? As a Realist I can only say that the man did not die at all. What about the smell? Should I explain why a live person can smell bad?

Parting the sea? Don't even talk to me about that. That is an absolute lie. Why would the sea not part now for the peaceful people who want to run away from war? They are peaceful and yet many of them are true believers... but the sea would not part no matter how high you would raise your arms.

Miracles? Why do the same true believers suffer no matter how loud they pray for something to happen or not to happen?

Did I sound different than all those Atheists you've met? I hope I did. Did I sound as a person who once attended the church regularly and followed whatever Bible says? Did I not? One prayer had turned me into the Realist. One prayer which did not become true and yet I prayed with all my heart. Whatever I prayed for did not happen and that fact has killed whatever Christianity I had within myself.

I am now the Realist.

I can go on forever. I can stop as well. Just don't start that same argument, which has gotten old, with me.

The bottom line is: I don't preach whatever makes no sense to me.

2007-07-14 12:22:02 · answer #4 · answered by grigam2000 3 · 0 0

I have to agree with you, in most parts!!The Bible is not superstitious though and is logical.The Bible proved the Earth was a sphere in shape hundresd of years before the scientists. The Bible is so accurate,the prophecy's fortold that have occured and are occuring today and will in the near future prove that God exists, and that evolution is something that Satan created to confuse people!!
Satan is mentioned of in the Bible in 1CORTHINTHIANS 4:4 as" the god of this system of things who is blinding the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ might not shine through".
Satan and his demons are very active in the world today, they have been thrown out of heaven as Rev chapter 12 shows"they are misleading the entire inhabited earth....and he has great anger knowing he has a short period of time".
God Jehovah is allowing Satan time to prove that humans can not be indepndent of him. He is the rightful ruler and without him, we humans can not have true lasting peace, but will end up destoying our earth as we have already done.
That's why God will soon intervine and do away with Satan and his demons and those ruining the earth. God's purpose has never changed and will come to the realisation, very soon. God will first remove false religion through the governments and then the governments and the wicked ones.
Have a free home Bible study with Jehovah's wittness's if you want to know more!!I urge you even just go to their kingdom halls to listen to a talk discreetly it will change your life forever

2007-07-13 17:00:31 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Some day, in the future, when we put the "Unified Theory of Everything" to work for us, the machine will start to shake and a blinding light will emerge from it. Within the blinding light a door will appear. All the machines makers will run away, except one.

A scientist, a man of numbers and sober judgment, a non-believer in the things of God, will walk to this door and open it. Stepping through the doorway, he will find God on the other side working and ask, "Who are you?"

Looking up from his work he will say, "I AM...God. It's about time you guys figured that out. I began to think you would never get it right."
Locked eye to eye with God the scientist begins to shake with terror and unable to talk. Sensing the man's fear God says, "Fear not. No harm will come to you here."

To late. The man's heart was racing, terror had taken a hold of him, and it was fight or flight time. Wisely he chose flight and raced back thought the door into his reality, slammed the door shut, shut down the machine, and began to dismantle it piece by piece.

That night as the man fought to find sleep, just as he began to drift off into sleep he heard a door slowly creek open and a voice say loudly, "Don't slam the door!" Then some unseen door slammed shut.

2007-07-13 17:12:25 · answer #6 · answered by csburridge 5 · 0 1

How do you know that the Darwin wasn't inspired by God?

Do you believe that Adam and Eve alone populated the earth? If so, was incest okay at that time?

I don't deny that the Bible is a holy book.....I don't deny that God had a part (a large part) in the writing of the book. However, it was humans who actually wrote the book and then translated it time and again.....unfortunately errors can happen.

I think that God is bigger than one book.

2007-07-13 16:19:51 · answer #7 · answered by mouse_726 6 · 4 1

This is why it's getting reeeaaalllllyyy hard to be nice to people.

Science is EVERYWHERE.

It was there when "God created Earth lolz".

Look, if the bible was SO RIGHT, then..

WHY ARE PEOPLE EVEN DOUBTING IT?

If there was stable proof that everything written in that bible was correct, NO ONE would doubt it.

Yeah, I've read the bible.

It was messed uppppp.

Um

Science isn't invented, btw.

2007-07-13 16:25:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Logic is a creation of God. MOST conflict between science and religion is really between people who are misinformed about BOTH SIDES of the discussion.

To start with, the Bible DOES NOT teach a 6000 year old earth. That is a gross misinterpretation of the scriptures, based on improper techniques. NOTHING in scripture teaches that and ONLY by DENYING THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTEXT was Ussher able to arrive at his misinterpretation. - Since the scriptures SAY NOTHING, we can only rely on the physical evidence, which DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH SCRIPTURE.

2007-07-13 16:21:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The bible, koran, and other books were all written by ignorant men to control their sheep. Neither science, nor logic, nor common sense exist in the bible.

2007-07-13 16:21:09 · answer #10 · answered by Lionheart ® 7 · 2 0

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