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I'm not Pagan and my name isn't Dan. I live in Taiwan, and "Pagan Dan" is Chinese for "bacon and eggs".

I don't know why I'm answering your question. You do not seem to be a believer, and I get the impression that you are seeking information to support your negative attitude towards organized religion.

I'm a Christian, and I wish I could say that we leave you alone to your beliefs and we expect the same courtesy. However, I am sorry to say that Christians pick on you guys, with a view to persuading you to become one of us. Some people do so with a good heart, for all that their efforts are naive and futile, and other people are evangelical in order to meet their own need to save you rather than considering your need to be saved.

For that reason, I will answer your question.

There IS such a thing as Divine Truth, but that is not to say that you necessarily hear it from religious people or churches.

For example, there is no justification in the Muslim Koran for the notion that women should be veiled, and war against Christians and Jews, women, and unarmed civilians is forbidden. Wars can only be fought to defend Islam, not against places like the US where there is freedom of religion and mosques all over the country where people are left in peace to worship as they see fit.

Similarly, there is no mention in the Christian Bible that priests should be celibate.

These are what the Anglican Book of Common Prayer calls "vain things, fondly invented."

Churches have frequently admitted error, and tried to make amends for wrongdoing. Christians used to believe that slavery was OK, that capital punishment was fine, that killing non-Christians was OK, that burning women alive was justified in case they were witches, that aboriginal people did not have souls, and that God speaks English and wears pants.

I think that children get credit for becoming mature, and so should churches.

I don't know if you are male or female, so I will be careful how I phrase this up. You should have a beer with my wife and me sometime, so that we could discuss this issue further.

2007-07-12 22:50:33 · answer #1 · answered by Pagan Dan 6 · 1 0

Is this a trick question? The answer is obvious - they'll simply change their story. Nowhere in recorded history has any religion ever admitted it was wrong. To do so would have disastrous consequences. For once you admit fallibility and error, you are opening yourself to doubt and uncertainty. These are the enemies of faith.

"For the fundamentalist who wants to believe every word of the Bible, however, life is a house of cards, with each card a tenet of faith. If you remove one card, the entire house collapses."
— Morris Sullivan

"It does not pay a prophet to be too specific."
— L. Sprague de Camp

Below is an excerpt from Carl Sagan's book, "Broca's Brain".

One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and - while the events of that year were certainly of some importance - the world did not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended.

There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014'. A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way. But they did not.

They could have said, Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth. But they did not. Instead, the did something much more ingenious. They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the fact of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof.

The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough- mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration was needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.

There is nothing so absurd that it cannot be believed as truth if repeated often enough.
— William James

A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth.
— G. Goebbels

In cultures such as ours, religion is very often an alien form of life to intellectuals. Living as we do in a post-enlightenment era, it is difficult for us to take religion seriously. The very concept seems fantastic to us ... that people in our age can believe that they have had a personal encounter with God, that they could believe that they have experienced conversion through a "mystical experience of God," so that they are born again in the Holy Spirit, is something that attests to human irrationality and a lack of sense of reality.
— Kai Nielsen

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
— Galileo Galilei

Oh, what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to believe!
— Laurence Peter

Some things have to be believed to be seen.
— Ralph Hodgson

2007-07-12 22:37:23 · answer #2 · answered by HawaiianBrian 5 · 1 0

Religions have allways changed and adapted their stories. That's what religion is all about. It evolves with society and mankind.
Heck, we started with lots of gods for each and every damn thing we could not comprehend and they changed the story to just one single god allmighty.
Things that we do or say today would've got us to burn at the stake just some 500 years ago. That's the way religion works.

2007-07-12 22:40:52 · answer #3 · answered by doruletz1999 7 · 0 0

As for the Jews, they their "bible" incorporates the 1st 5 books of the Bible noted as the Torah. mutually as particular Jesus became a Jew, the Jewish human beings then and on an identical time at present do not evaluate him to be Lord and Savior that the prophets interior the old testomony prophesied approximately. there is the version b/w Jews and Christians. And as for writing the Bible, particular God already knew who would write the sixty six books even nevertheless some books have no regular author. And thirdly, as for guy being the top of the better half and childrens, you seem to misconstrue what's meant. No it does not supply adult males the superb to administration, abuse, administration their different halves. It in basic terms ability that he's meant to preserve business enterprise. Eve became Adam's helpmate suggesting that there is meant to be equality in marriage. and that i agree thoroughly that there may well be some translating errors that would have got here approximately in the process the technique, yet for that reason a procedures the there have not been any additions or subtraction that adjust the regular meaning of a particular piece of passage. And as for Muslims Allah is the word for God, that's the comparable God that created the universe in Genesis. they simply deny the existence of God as a results of fact the Trinity: God the father, Son and Holy Spirit that co-exist as one. it truly is b/c Muslims are strictly monotheistic and to them the Trinity seems to make God polytheistic. As for Mythology I have no theory. i visit ought to accomplish a splash examine. possibly faith has been created to extra healthful the existence of folk, yet does that make it any much less valid or genuine? that is that how technologies maintains to progression? Lord knows that is an intregal component of our existence-variety. in basic terms like existence is what you're making of it, faith could be defined as such. and probably you're complicated faith with spirituality.

2016-10-21 02:50:16 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

When a religion starts talking, I want to know it.
It would be the first time! :)

"Religion" is an idea. It can't talk.

Seriously, I don't know. How can the proponents or followers of a religion know for sure until death?

2007-07-12 22:34:45 · answer #5 · answered by batgirl2good 7 · 0 0

They already have. Just one example is the catholic church ceasing to kill and torture folks for claiming the world is round and that we are not the center of the universe.
Or the american christians at long last accepting (For the most part anyhow) that blacks are NOT inferior and are entitled to the same rights as everyone else.
So... yes.

2007-07-12 22:36:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

haha. prolly not depending on the religion because if they are wrong then theres probably a reason they are. like there bad religions.

Im baptist. I believe there is only one God.

2007-07-12 22:33:47 · answer #7 · answered by ? 1 · 0 0

Ah. You must be talking about The Catholic Church.Just think about the priests and the little boys.

2007-07-12 22:33:41 · answer #8 · answered by runner1 6 · 0 0

Definently change their story...as Christianity has done plenty a time!

2007-07-12 22:33:17 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

hey gd question but i dnt hav an anser, it wuld b quite hard 4 sum1 2 just giv up wot they hav believed in all their life but i pose in the end they wuld havc 2 accept the truth...

2007-07-12 22:34:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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