English Deutsch Français Italiano Español Português 繁體中文 Bahasa Indonesia Tiếng Việt ภาษาไทย
All categories

Osiris was killed by Set. Then Osiris' sister-wife, Isis, gathered the pieces and 'resurrected' Osiris.
Dionysis went to 'Hades' for three days to rescue his wife but at the end of a three day journey, lost her, then returned to the land of the living. Isn't that resurrecting?

2007-07-12 13:51:01 · 15 answers · asked by strpenta 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The Jesus story is real but the others are myth? Not a very convincing argument
BTW, Dionysis is Greek.

2007-07-12 14:04:01 · update #1

Martin-The Osiris tale was well-documented and had a huge impact on Egyptian, and obviously, Jewish culture.

2007-07-12 14:08:38 · update #2

David F: I am aware of the dissimalarities but that is to be expected when the story is already very old and it's more reasonable to see that people starting a religion would take an existing idea then add to it to make it different. More reasonable than believing unnatural events occurred just b/c some old book says so.

2007-07-12 14:13:26 · update #3

15 answers

Yes and there are dozens and dozens of others -- Excellent book -- I think the title is the 18 Crucified Saviors, but I'll try to find it in my library when I get home from this group of meetings tomorrow night, don't know that it isn't out on loan, but we'll see.

Reyn
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

2007-07-12 13:54:28 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

It's just a matter of personal choice as to what you are going to edit out and what you are going to keep. Remember, the ministry of Jesus lasted 3 1/2 years. He was teaching and healing people and doing other unbelievable things everyday. There simply is no way you could put everything He ever did into any book. The Apostle John said(in John21:25) that " Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written". The gospel writers had to pick and choose what they wrote down because of limited space. In that particular incident, there was 2 angels. One was doing all the talking and the other one was just there. Mark chose to use his space telling his readers what the one angel said. Luke decides to mention that there was another angel there. There is no contradiction. Luke says there were 2 angels there. Mark mentions one. Had Mark said there was "ONLY" one, then you would have a contradiction. Anyone who has ever been an investigative reporter or a Private detective knows that for any kind of news story or crime, the witnesses are always going to differ a little bit. That's because they see it from a different perspective. That's why every newspaper has a re-write editor. His job is to collect all the eye-witness reports and harmonize them because they are all going to be a little different. If the witnesses reports are all exactly the same, the re-write editor starts to think COLLUSION. In other words, maybe this thing never happened. Maybe a bunch of people just got together and made this story up and made sure there were no differences in their stories. The witnesses always differ. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means they say it from a different perspective. Incidently, a good book you might want to consider is a book called 'The resurrection report'. It's by a guy named William Proctor. William Proctor was an editor for the Chicago Sun Times for many years but he started his career as an investigative reporter. He takes the Gospels and writes a book as if he is a reporter covering the story. It's kind of a harmony of the gospels type of book. The interesting thing is that he explains why he has no problem with the so-called differences in the gospels. He just says that that's what you would expect from any story. Let me give you an example of see an event from a different perspective. This is a true story. It actually happened. There were 4 friends who were raised in Illinios. They all grew up and one moved to California but they kept in touch by text messaging and other means. Later on when they were in their 40's, one of the friends in Illinios is suddenly killed. The other two friends in Illinios text message the friend in California to tell him. One says he was hit by a car while walking across the street. The other says he died in a car accident when another car ran a red light, smashed the car on the passenger side by the back door where he was sitting. Obvious contradiction, right? Actually, they were both true. This is what actually happened. He was walking across the street and a car hit him. Because there was no hospital near and he needed care immediately and the people driving the car were in the medical field, they decided to put him in the back seat of the car and drive him to the hospital themselves. They went about a mile with him in the back seat and as they were going through a green light, someone ran the red light at 50 MPH and hit their car right on the back door where his head was and he was killed instantly. So it wasn't a contradiction. Both stories were true. It was just a matter of perspective.

2016-05-21 01:45:44 · answer #2 · answered by shawnda 3 · 0 0

Where there are similarities between the stories the disimmilarities far out way the similarities. There is not enough room here but if you would like to break the question down into smaller parts I would be happy to explain the differences. Well since you don't wish to break it down how about this. Jesus has been shown to be a historical person. The set osiris story was to explain the seasons ans set in a time before time. As did Dionyisius. Also each of them go do their deeds for their own selfish reasons. Jesus's was for others. The dissimilarities do not end there but since it appeared you did not wish to take it deeper then I shall stop at this point.

2007-07-12 14:02:24 · answer #3 · answered by David F 5 · 0 0

None of the Jesus myth is original, not the miracles (and mostly I mean even the specific miracles he supposedly performed) not the ressurection, the 12 apostles ,the virgin birth, the manger, the star in the sky the wise men. None of it, not a single one can be originally attributed to Christianty. Just a slightly different fairy tale for a slightly different audience.

Holly, I would love to see some of this "evidence". Were there pictures. Other than 3rd hand stories written at least 40 years after his death tell me of any evidence.

2007-07-12 13:56:24 · answer #4 · answered by Gawdless Heathen 6 · 4 1

Of course it's not original. The story has been played out in many cultures prior to Jesus. The Egyptians has the most influence.

2007-07-12 13:56:28 · answer #5 · answered by Mark in Time 5 · 2 0

All of mankind spoke one language until Jehovah confused the language of man while they were building the Tower of Babel in 2569 BCE.
When those people dispersed throughout the earth, they took their false story's, made up new gods and thus the beginning for Babylon the Great.

2007-07-12 14:04:56 · answer #6 · answered by Here I Am 7 · 1 1

Read the stories more closely. The pagan mystery religions, when there is an apparent resemblance to Christianity, are without exception, similar only in the superficial details.

2007-07-12 13:56:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Yes, there have been other ressurrection stories before Jesus. However, none of those stories have been so well documented or had such an increasing impact on humanity.

Napoleon expressed these thoughts while he was exiled on the rock of St. Helena. There, the conqueror of civilized Europe had time to reflect on the measure of his accomplishments. He called Count Montholon to his side and asked him, "Can you tell me who Jesus Christ was?" The count declined to respond. Napoleon countered:

Well then, I will tell you. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend? Upon force. Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him.... I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man: none else is like Him; Jesus Christ was more than man.... I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me.... but to do this it was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice. When I saw men and spoke to them, I lighted up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts.... Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space. Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother. He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself. He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted. Wonderful! In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ. All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him. This phenomenon is accountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers. Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range. This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it. This is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

2007-07-12 14:03:19 · answer #8 · answered by Martin S 7 · 1 1

You are talking about mythological places and false gods that people dreamed up long ago.
The resurrection of Jesus was very real and did happen.

2007-07-12 13:58:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th. Was crucified and rose from the dead 3 days later. Sound familiar?

2007-07-12 13:54:30 · answer #10 · answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7 · 4 1

fedest.com, questions and answers