Why is it that catholics believe that when the Lord said that He would build the church upon Peter that it was

Question

Literal.

Peter replied to the Lord's question regarding who men thought HE was.. and Peter's reply came from the Father .. that Jesus is the Christ . the Son of the Living God.
It was not upon Peter as a Person that the Lord would build His church .. But Rather upon the Revelation of what the Father Revealed to him that was the Foundation upon which the church is built. We do not have a man as a foundation .. but our foundation is the Christ as the Word.

Peter stood with the eleven in the Book of acts.. not by himself.. he took the covering of the brothers there wtih Him when the Church was started.
Paul's ministry was in unveiling God's eternal purpose regarding the Church as the Body of Christ.
John's ministry was a mending ministry after both peter and paul died to strenghten the holes bought in my different teachings and to bring the believers back to " That which was from the beginning"
SO tell me this..Is Peter or The Lord the foundation upon which the church is built

Peter's name means rock.. but this is not that he himself is a rock... We have to also see that in His epistles, brother Peter spoke regarding the believers as being " living Stones" that we are being transformed into " Precious stones" in the Dwelling place of God. Not long after Peter was told that the revelation he received was the rock upon which the church is built, than the Lord rebuked Peter and told him" Get thee behind me satan"...
Was peter satan? NO.. the words he uttered were those of satan.. likewise was peter the rock? NO.. but the words he spoke from the Father was the rock.

OuR Brother Peter was indeed transformed by the Lord over the years OUT of all that he was naturally and INTO a genuine precious living stone in God's house.. I love my brother Peter.. but he will be saddened to even be put as anything more than a slave of Jesus Christ, as was all the other apostles and us too..

Answer 1

Jesus is the foundation of the church, not Peter.

Catholics misunderstand the reference to "rock".

Catholics argue that Jesus in this passage said He would build his church upon Peter and gave the keys (authority) of the kingdom uniquely to him. The original Greek, however, distinguishes Peter from the rock. While Jesus gives Simon the name “Peter” (petros, masculine), He speaks of the rock (petra) with a feminine word. Petros refers to a stone that a man might carry, whereas petra refers to a huge rock, cliff or ledge. The distinctions between masculine and feminine and between large and small are obvious.

Catholic scholars say Jesus did not speak Greek here but Aramaic, and the word “Cephas” is the same whether masculine or feminine. The Scriptures we have, however, are only in Greek; and Matthew, an apostle and eyewitness to this event, made the distinction. Jesus had already noted that wise men build upon the rock (petra) of His word (Matt. 7:24-27). Jesus built His church on Peter’s revealed confession that He was the Christ, the Son of the living God, not on Peter.

If Peter himself were the rock upon which the church is founded, he did not know it. He pointed to Jesus as the chief corner stone; there is salvation in no one else (Acts 4:10-12). Peter said, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.” Jesus was “A stone of stumbling, and a rock (petra) of offense” (1 Pet. 2: 4-8).

There are other reasons that show that Peter was not the first Pope.

1. Peter was a married man.
2. Peter did not render the decision at the Jerusalem council.
3. Paul rebuked Peter for hypocrisy.
4. There was to be equality among the apostles.
5. Peter did not accept worship
6. No apostle or inspired writer ever hinted that Peter was supreme.

The word pope literally means “papa" or "father". The Lord taught against religious titles, “But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ” (Matt. 23:8-10, NASB). If Jesus condemned religious titles, how much more will He condemn those who presume authority?

Answer 2

It was literal. Peter had the authority to change church doctrine such as dietary laws and circumsion through revelation. The problem is that didn't mean that any bishop of Rome was ever an Apostle with Peter's authority. This was a claim made by later bishops centuries after Peter.

The position of Senior Apostle would have gone to James and then John, not to a local administrator. When all the Apostles died the keys were withdrawn from the earth until the Restoration.

Answer 3

Christ clearly established an institution, the church that would not be prevailed against. It has both human and divine aspects, as did our Lord. That church is that body which grew up in continuity with the early church. Branches, split-offs, "reestablishments" -- these are not the church founded by Christ. The Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches were one Church -- what was anciently called simply the catholic church -- for about 1000 years. "Eastern Orthodox" is a shortened version of that Church's name -- "Holy Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church". It is much Christ's Church as the Roman Catholic Church is -- neither predates the other; both, you see, now have adjectives in their names, an acknowledgment that Christianity has been divided. From the Orthodox point of view, it was Rome that departed from the other patriarchates, and struck out on its own, mistaking its rightful position of the head of the churches in the west to mean that it was the rightful head of all the churches. The heads of the other churches didn't agree. Orthodoxy has maintained the faith, without the additions of Rome, nor the subtractions of Protestantism. Blessings. /Orthodox

Answer 4

A great question. Since there are many denominational differences concerning christianity. First, the catholic church built their foundation of what was taken from ethiopia (cush)! Why was peter chosen by them to represent the foundation of their religious system? Simply because like you said ,they took it literally. The church fathers of 1700 years ago did not understand the significance of their error, or maybe they did and comitted the worst type of crimes in human history. You have bible thumpers who advocate paulineism over what Jesus actually revealed. I have never accepted the dogma that God had a mother, or worship angelical statues. Apostasy is prevalent in almost every religion upon the face of the earth in this day and time. Jesus never advocated any type of religion upon the people. He told the samaritan woman at jacobs well that the Father seeks those who worship in spirit and in truth. Botton line!!!!!!!!! So the church should not be built or maintained with the doctrines and dogmas of schisms. wouldn't you agree???

Answer 5

Roman Catholic Church covers a period of just under two thousand years, making the Church one of the oldest continuously existing religious institutions in history. As the oldest branch of Christianity.Christian tradition records that the Christian Church in Rome was jointly founded by Saint Peter and Saint Paul, and that Peter was its first bishop.

It is a fact that this is the foundation of the Catholic Church and Christian faith. Peter is not "LORD" egads.. study learn knowledge is power.

Christians today have a hard time with this. But it is not only in the religious books but in other documentations. sigh.

Today to make it different then what it was..People love to say it was just a way to express that he was the first christian leader... So he was lol aka the bishop or some say the first Pope. It is now not worldly accepted as such.

Answer 6

Please let me ask u to check something in scripture.. the reference where JESUS called peter cephas, which means stone..the word JESUS used fro rock was PETROS, meaning a more solid rock. Paul spoke of CHRIST being the ROCK that supplied the israelites with water.It has a spiritual meaning..the reason the rcc came up with this was Constantine who is actually the founder of the roman movement into christianity. catholism was a religion designed to unite the roman people with christianity, but what you find in this endeavor is alot of ties to the heathen religions of the roman empire. so what u have are idols, and similar deities,and a change in the 10 commandments that excludes the graven images commandment.why? because the heathens loved their statues and wanted to keep them.. the signs of sunworship are rampant among Constantine's religion, because of the echuminical philosophy used in the beginning..

Answer 7

Sandy they simply just misintepreted the scripture....and some people are so gullible to this fact. They dont read the scriptures for themselves and they dont ask the Holy Spirit for intepretation and wisdom...They are lead by religion not relationship......as it is written when Jesus asked the diciples who do men say that i am....and Simon Peter said to the Lord you are the Christ, the Son of the Living God....Jesus then turned to him and said, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona for flesh and blood had not revealed this to you but my father which in heaven....all truth is parallel.....this rule still applies for us today as believers .......the unveiling of ALL truth by the precious Holy Spirit who was freely given......

If the blind continue to lead the blind they both will fall into the ditch.

Answer 8

Actually if you read the section it was the Priesthood orginization that the church would be built upon. The KEYS of the Kingdom. The Keys of the priesthood held by christ the apostles and every prophet from the time of Adam.

Christ is the corner stone of that foundation meaning that he is the powersource of those keys.

Answer 9

Peter's name was Petros, and the Lord used a play on words, using the word Petras, or rock. He was saying that he was going to build the church on the rock of Truth that was uttered from Peter's mouth.

Answer 10

I think there is a bit of misinterpretation here. Clearly the church is built on the backs of its servants. Yes, the triune God is the focus of religion, but it's quite obvious that for anything to take form on earth, that mankind must see to it. Hence, the Church manifests Jesus' continuing ministry.

Yes, Jesus didn't leave a detailed blueprint of how he wanted the Church to be founded. However, he left it up to Peter and the rest of his disciples to get it started, and then they received the Holy Spirit. This is why we believe that the Church is a holy and guided institution, despite hard times here and there (we are only humans, after all), the Church survives to preach the good news and to share in Holy Communion with Christ and one another.

So in a way, we DO take Christ's command to Peter literally, but is there anything wrong with that? Peter's charge was to build a Church to bring people to Christ, not to him. This continues to be the aim of the Catholic Church.