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Hi, I am a happy man, 41 years old and am roman catholic, i also happen to be gay, came out of a long term loving and very faithful relationship when my partner died at an early age, to me my religion and my sexuality have never been a problem, it is not a problem for most people in my church, why do people claiming to be god loving people throw verbal stones, i visit GLBT room here and the abuse is unreal, please i know it is only a small minority, but dont they see that what they are doing is wrong? I am real getting stressed over it

2007-07-12 08:09:23 · 16 answers · asked by pete m 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Hi Joel, Thanks, are you saying that i might as well drop dead now as i will burn in hell anyway?, as i have lived a gay lifestyle for 41 years, never hurt anyone, never did no harm to anyone?

2007-07-12 08:20:48 · update #1

Khalid, god made me this way, i have always been gay, yes i believe i was born this way

2007-07-12 08:23:59 · update #2

Madpol1, Hi my church does not class me as anything but a person, regardles of sexuality

2007-07-12 10:12:21 · update #3

16 answers

First, I'm sorry about your partner. Losing a loved one is so difficult, and in a world where many will condemn you rather than comfort you, this must have been exceedingly painful. I hope that in time the pain subsides and the memories of love linger on to comfort you.

Second, I'd say please don't stress about the cr#p that gets posted here in R&S or the GLBT forum. There are, sadly, some very ugly and unhappy people out there who hide behind the anonymity of the forum and vent hateful stuff in every possible direction. Whatever your sexual orientation, whatever your spiritual tradition, you'll find some ugly troll coming through and just sloshing the hatred all over -- just to try and get a reaction. So just ignore them and look for the good stuff. Because there IS good stuff here, and lots and lots of really good people, too.

My guess is that if you were able to reconcile being gay and being Catholic, you'll have no problem hanging out here. (And, by the way, right now we're in the "seasonal" ugliness where the kids are out of school, and a lot of the bored little buggers hang out here with their emotionally and intellectually constipated, hormone-charged ignorant rants. It's laughable, really, so don't let it get you down.)

Welcome to the zoo. It's really not all the bad. Well worth fighting the crowds.

2007-07-12 08:38:45 · answer #1 · answered by buddhamonkeyboy 4 · 5 0

I am so very sorry that your partner passed away.

I am also sorry that some people can be so mean & abusive. You should not stress out over what simple minded people say. I am happy that some people in your church are supportive of you, I know as a Christian myself; it is hard finding open minded churches and Christians. I think a lot of times some Christians hide behind God/Religion and think they can act anyway they want because Christ is on their side. This gives Christians a bad name. Do they not remember "Let the one without sin cast the first stone" There is no changing them. Or how they think.

And will people stop trying to tell you to not be gay...you are gay and you where born that way.

Anyways, I wish you the best, I hope people will one day not be so cruel and closed minded. Hugs!

2007-07-12 15:42:26 · answer #2 · answered by Ghoulina 3 · 3 0

I've never understood why anyone would support a church that considers them an abomination. Finding excuses to deny people's Human Rights seems to me to be a sign from God that He don't live there.

But then, I never understood why, even as the Nazis were stuffing open gays into the ovens, Closet queens were joining the Party in droves. Nothing else accounts for those Silver on Black SS uniforms or the Leather trenchcoat and Fedora Gestapo look.

For that matter, a lot of open Gay men and most of the closeted support the Republican Party in contravention of what would appear to be their best interests. Lesbians seem to be smarter about that.

But, to actually answer your question, yes you are stressing out too much over it. LTS. Life's Too Short to worry about what the haters think. You just have to take a stand against what they do.

2007-07-12 16:30:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I won't tell you I agree with your lifestyle, because I don't; but that is between you and G-d...

You have my deepest symphony in the lose of your partner. I know first hand what it feels like to lose someone you love.

Don't stress out too much over Y!A.. it's the internet, and folks get much more bold when they can hid behind a keyboard.

2007-07-12 17:06:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Many condolences on the loss of your loved one, you have my deepest sympathy.
I've just done a quick count and you got a lot more positive responses here than negative.
Hatred poisons the hater.
Many people who profess Christianity live lives completely the opposite of what Christ taught.
Do you think Christ would react to you in that shameful way? No, of course not.
Hold an image of your dear friend in your heart and, when these people show their lack of Christian truth, just concentrate on that image.
From personal experience I can assure you, it does get better.
Many blessings,
Jon

2007-07-12 15:57:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I have rarely been to that room. People can be cruel no matter where you go.
I'm sorry to hear about your partner passing away.
Please accept my sympathy.

I have no answer for you. I don't know why anyone would ever condemn love. We need more of it in this world, I think.

There is verbal abuse here as well, and, I am sure, in other rooms. Try to ignore the name-calling as best as you can.

I think most of the verbal abuse comes from teenagers, playing....or else from immature "adults."


Peace to you....

2007-07-12 15:17:46 · answer #6 · answered by batgirl2good 7 · 4 0

Yeah, there will always be morons.

I could give you a bunch of reasons, all sociologically valid, for why "gays" are the target of social shunning. I won't.

I will just point out that being gay is a choice centered around making choices about people based specifically on their physical characteristics against social conventions.

To me saying you are gay is just as intelligent as telling me that you will only date women with big t*ts or a white guy telling me he only dates Asian women or a black guy telling me he will only date white women.

I can understand people saying, "I live in this society and I will go by the rules of the society", not great, but okay. We are people after all.

If you told me that you fell in love with a specific person I have no problem at all with that.

If you tell me you only date women with big t*ts I really don't want you around me.

Social shunning. Some people will take that farther and tell you exactly what they think of your bragging about only dating women with big t*ts. Some will freak out and attack you.

Sociology. It is not right, it just is.

PS: Darwinism tells us that some members of a species are homosexual from birth because they are defective and become homosexual or monosexual so that the defect is not passed through sexual propagation.

I don't believe for a minute that gays or homosexuals are defective. I think it is a choice.

2007-07-12 15:29:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The only reason that you get distressed over this is that you LET yourself get distressed. You have internalized 'rules' that say things like "If somebody says such-and-such, then I will feel bad."

You cannot change the behavior of these others... but you CAN change your internalized 'rules'... something like "If somebody says such-and-such, then I will feel sorry that they live such shallow lives, bereft of human compassion and understanding."

You have no business letting the personality flaws of other people affect the way you feel.

2007-07-12 15:19:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

"but rather a psycological sickness" - I think you will find sexuality is Instinctual, you can't decide your sexuality, nor can you make your own heart stop beating, there are somethings that occur that can not be controlled, including a lot of mental functions, humans have extremely varied tastes when it comes to attraction and it isn't all about sex.

2007-07-12 15:32:41 · answer #9 · answered by Ian G 3 · 3 0

Most people do not have the love of the Father in their hearts. I love you and God loves you, no matter what you do and where you go God will always love you. But the life you live is a sinful one. It is not my job to tell you that you are going to Hell and that you will burn forever and try to scare you into a better relationship with God. I am only here to do as Hebrews 10:25 tells us "encourage each other and all the more as we see the day approaching." But what you must realize is that homosexuality is a sin and you can't make your way into heaven without being free of sin. Once more may I say that I am praying for you and that I love you. I pray for you is that you may find the Father and that you repent and turn from your sin.

In Jesus Name

I am not saying that you have hurt anyone. You say you feel that you were born gay, and have lived for 41 years as a gay man. There is only one person that you have hurt, and that is God. He sent His Son to die for you and save you from your sins. We are all sinful by nature, and your sin of homosexuality is just as bad as the sin of pride that I struggle with in God's eyes. But there is good news. Christ loves us and will save us from are sins and set us free. I pray that you will be free my friend. And BTW I forgot to mention in my original answer that those that would hurl venemous insults at you are wrong. Christ would not do this, Christ would show you the way to freedom of sins. May God Bless you.

2007-07-12 15:17:30 · answer #10 · answered by Joel 2 5 · 1 6

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