"These are the laws the the Jews had to go by, before Jesus died on the cross. It has never been a Christian commandment. "
But, John 19Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
Meaning the OT laws were still valid.
So aren't you just finding excuses for the OT?
2007-07-12 05:43:38 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It is only valid when it is used to force a literal translation of Genesis in schools, and to oppress homosexuals.
2007-07-12 05:47:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 4⤋
The Old Laws were in place at the time when that statement was made. Jesus lived under the Old Laws.
The point that is commonly missed is that Jesus' death on the cross fulfilled the Old Laws. That is when the Old Testament was fulfilled and the New Testament was established.
What happened to the Old Testament (the Old Law, or Old Covenant)? The New Testament tells us, "In that He says, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away" (Hebrews 8:13). "For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the law made nothing perfect..." (Hebrews 7:18,19). "Then He said, 'Behold, I have come to do Your will, 0 God.' He takes away the first that He may establish the second" (Hebrews 10:9). "For the priesthood being changed, of necessity, there is also a change of the law" (Hebrews 7:12). The apostle Paul wrote: "Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements (the Law of Moses) that was against us, which was contrary to us, And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross" (Colossians 2:14). Paul also wrote concerning this Old Law which contained the Ten Commandments: "Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor" (Galatians 3:24, 25).
When was the Old Law taken away and the New Law given? It happened when Jesus shed His blood on the cross: "And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives" (Hebrews 9:15-17).
2007-07-12 06:03:00 · answer #2 · answered by TG 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You interpret the passage:
John 19Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
To mean we must keep the Law. I interpret the passage, in context to mean that people have no clue what the law means,
John 7:24Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment."
2007-07-12 05:50:56 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
That's in Jn:7:19. Jesus was speaking to the Jews at that time.He also said in Mt:5:17 that he didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it.Which means he would follow it to the letter. Something that no one had done before or since. In Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
So if you do these you cover all of the old testament laws your talking about. Have a nice day, and may God Bless You.
2007-07-12 05:57:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
The OT is an historical foundation that is important and necessary. The laws have been fullfilled by the death and resssurection of the Messiah. Read more indepth and you will see. We still have laws to govern by today and it is important to be aware and follow them. I hope this anwers your question. You cannot study a country and its people without a history book. The OT is our historical formation... it depicts people places and things... so that we might get a personal understanding of how and why people lived the way they did. Overall wheter it is OT or NT, the bible always shows Gods Grace and Love!
2007-07-12 05:50:42 · answer #5 · answered by Monique S 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Not at all. The advent of the Messiah was in fulfillment of not only OT prophecy, but in fulfillment of the OT Law period. He was pointing out that if they rejected Mose's laws as given by Him, they were in effect rejecting Mose's very words about Him when Moses said "The Lord your God will raise up a Prophet like unto me; Him you shall hear". Guess what? The "educated" doofuses of Christ's day rejected Him and refused to believe in Him as the Messiah just like millions of nutjobs are doing today.
2007-07-12 05:53:07 · answer #6 · answered by RIFF 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
A priest a rabbi and a minister were all in the middle of the lake fishing. After some time goes by, the minister gets up, tells the other two he's going to get some beer, steps out of the boat and walks across the water to the cabin, gets the beer and comes back. The three of them drink up and fish some more, but are having no luck. After a couple more hours, the rabbi announces that it's his turn to go get more beer, so up he gets, walks across the water to the cabin, and brings back some beer. Again, after having fished some more, and drank up all the beer the rabbi had brought, and not to be out-done, the priest announces that it is his turn to go get the beer. So he stands up, steps out of the boat and sinks into the lake. The rabbi turns to the minister and says: "Do you think we should have told him where the stepping stones were?"
2016-05-20 15:19:59 · answer #7 · answered by ignacia 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus came to complete the law, not to abolish it. This is what Jesus said... "Don't suppose for a minute that I have come to demolish the Scriptures— either God's Law or the Prophets. I'm not here to demolish but to complete. I am going to put it all together, pull it all together in a vast panorama. God's Law is more real and lasting than the stars in the sky and the ground at your feet. Long after stars burn out and earth wears out, God's Law will be alive and working."
2007-07-12 05:50:03 · answer #8 · answered by bwlobo 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
It's hard to make a religion popular if you have over 600 laws to follow. That's why they come up with elaborate excuses to avoid stoning women who have sex out of marriage or something little like eat shellfish. The purpose of Christianity is to spread to as many people as possible, so the rules must be written in such a way that it is popular to as many people as possible.
2007-07-12 05:56:28 · answer #9 · answered by Graciela, RIRS 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Actually what Jesus did was brought the concept of love and grace to practicing our faith. When do things out of duty and because "we have to" it's not really done in love nor are we fully receiving God's transforming love. The love that we originally don't deserve nor is there a way to "deserve" His love. He just gives freely. When do choose to receive Christ into our hearts we do follow the "laws" from our hearts and it doesn't even seem like a big deal like practicing the law was in the Old Testament. David messed up lots in the OT but because in heart before God he was genuinely repentant God said he was a man after "God's own heart."
2007-07-12 05:50:09 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Jesus said this before He died and initiated the new and better covenant. Paul also says that Christ is the end of the law for those who believe. You have to read the whole new testament and read the verses in context.
2007-07-12 05:48:32 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋