Christians, I need your help: Pre-Rapture or Post Rapture?

Question

Many believers today believe in a Pre-Rapture that will take place, This belief was sparked mostly by John Darby in the early 1800's.

The bible seems to lean more over to a Post-Rapture which Jesus explains.

Before the flood, God saved Noah
Before the destruction of Saddom and Gamorrah, God got Lot and his family out of the city.

These places and people were destroyed by God
"GODS JUDGEMENT"

Yet in the Trinbulation period, Nothing is destroyed by God, the Anti-Christ will do the destroying, the Tribulation period is not the Judgement of God, it is the evil of the world so we can't say that we will be raptured before the Great Tribulation because its not Gods Judgement on earth, After the Tribulation is Gods Judgement and we will be snatched up in that moment just like Noah and Lot were saved.
Im not jumping to any conclusions but i will continue my studies

What is your opinion on this?

Answer 1

See http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/rapture.html

Answer 2

The Latin Raptus has some specific meanings not fully captured by its English equivalent "rapture", which currently has accrued among certain Christian millennarian sects additional connotations of End Times transport of redeemed Christians, which are treated at Rapture.

Raptus has two connotations derived from its classical origins, one spiritual and poetical, the inspired vision granted to a prophet (Ezekiel, Daniel) or to a poet stemming from his invocation of the Muses (Hesiod, Virgil)— or in apocalyptic literature to a writer combining both natures, such as the author of Revelation—the other possessive and physical (raptus virginum Sabinarum). As the Sabine virgins were raped and abducted so the poet was abducted by the source of his inspiration— transported.

Our Lord founded a Church (Matthew 16:18-19), not a book, which was to be the pillar and ground of Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). We can know what this Church teaches by looking not only at Sacred Scripture, but into History and by reading what the earliest Christians have written, what those who've sat on the Chair of Peter have spoken consistently with Scripture and Tradition, and what they've solemnly defined. To believe that the Bible is our only source of Christian Truth is unbiblical and illogical.

Answer 3

You know the source of all those Rapture ideas was John Nelson Darby, and yet you ask the question as if you accept it all? Why not return to historic Christianity, the way it was prior to the 1800s and still is in the Catholic, Orthodox and mainline Protestant Churches, which do not teach the Rapture at all, but rather the resurrection to eternal life. The Book of Revelation is highly symbolic. It was most likely encoded to protect it, because it isn't about the end of the world at all, but rather about the end of the Roman Empire, which was oppressing Christians in that day. It was intended to comfort those who were being martyred by saying the oppressor will be destroyed, but you will live with God.

Answer 4

I personally don't like the term "rapture". The Bible uses the term "resurrection", although we sometimes call it the general resurrection to distinguish it from Christ's Resurrection.

Generally speaking, the Bible says that it will occur when Christ returns. "I shall... raise them up at the last day" (John 6:39). "we who... are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven... and the dead in Christ will rise first" (1 Thes. 4).

As for the exact details, I don't think we can know. Why are there so many theories? God has not given us a timetable.

I once spoke to a minister who had a different view to mine and he explained that if you think how the Jews were unclear about the first coming of the Messiah and had different schools of thought, it's no different with the second comming. It turned out completely differently to everything they expected, and I wouldn't be surprised if God does something completely unexpected to surprise us.

Answer 5

Actually, there are three camps... some think believers will be raptured before the tribulation, some believe after, and some believe DURING.

I think we'll be raptured during the tribulation. God says those days will be so bad that everyone would die, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. I take that to mean that, though some of us will die for our faith in Christ during the tribulation, most of us will endure it for a while as a test of our faith and then be rescued from it, snatched away to be with Jesus until His return to judge the world in righteousness.

Answer 6

No Rapture




The Orthodox, Reformed, and Roman Catholic churches have no tradition of such a teaching and reject the doctrine, in part because they cannot find any reference to it among any of the early Church fathers and because they interpret prophetic scriptures in an amillennialist fashion, as being more symbolic than literal.





It is the teaching of John Nelson Darby in English-speaking churches at the end of the 19th century. In 1908, the doctrine of the rapture was further popularized by an evangelist named William Eugene Blackstone. During the 1970s, the rapture became popular in wider circles, in part due to the books of Hal Lindsey.
The doctrine of the rapture continues to be an important component in fundamentalist Christian eschatology.


So my opinion on "Rapture" :

"Rapture" is an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the tenth episode of the fifth season.

"Rapture" is the twelfth episode of the third season from the science fiction television series, Battlestar Galactica

They were science fiction episodes :)

Answer 7

I think you are more appropriately asking Pre- or Post Tribulation if I may and there are even some who ascribe to a mid-tribulation interpretation.

As for me. I am looking for Him at any time. And if it is before tribulation then "whew", if not then I am trusting God for the faith to remain and keep my eyes and heart looking for Him. And if it is Post... then I count on God who is faithful to keep those who are of His righteousness to see me through.

I think it fair to give this information to those who would believe in the Pre-tribulation, in order that if it isn't such that they would not lose faith, but rather remain steadfast.

God Bless

Answer 8

Your statements are wrong and contrary to the Truth of the Bible. All that happens in the 7 years of tribulation is under God's control and He will not allow the Body of Christ(Believers) to endure it. God will tell Christ to catch up the church before the tribulation begins.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (King James Version)
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16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Answer 9

Sir: This concern is overemphasized in maximum church homes ans as you properly remind it has no longer something to with Salvation.with the aid of how english is a 2nd language for me so I`ll do my ultimate. there are various deceptive concepts inclusive of that the rapture is to maintain God`s human beings from hi wrath. In Revelation 7 13 Then between the elders asked me, “those wearing long white gowns – who're they and the place have they arrive from?” 14 So I reported to him, “My lord, you comprehend the respond.” Then he reported to me, “those are people who've come out of the super tribulation. they have washed their gowns and made them white in the blood of the Lamb! 15 subsequently they're previously the throne of God, and that they serve him day and evening in his temple, and the single seated on the throne will preserve them. sixteen they are going to never bypass hungry or be thirsty lower back, and the solar won't beat down on them, nor any burning warmth, Isa 40 9:10; playstation 121:6; 17 because of the fact the Lamb in the path of the throne will shepherd them and reason them to springs of residing water, and God will wipe away each and every tear from their eyes.” playstation 23:a million; Isa 25:8; Rev 21:4; for sure states that those great quantity of folk the place risk-free with the aid of the blood of the lamb. inclusive of in exodus. in the 1st verses of this financial ruin 7 there are a hundred and forty four,000 yet in chapter14 verse 4 those are people who have not defiled themselves with women folk, for they're virgins. those are people who persist with the Lamb everywhere he is going. those have been redeemed from humanity as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb,be conscious 2Cor 11:2; 5 and no lie became into stumbled on on their lips; they're harmless. Zeph 3:13; Eph 5:27; "persist with the Lamb" merely as in Thesalonians. properly Sir I don´t have faith the church would be raptured (the a hundred and forty four,000 will) and we are able to be below the risk-free practices with the aid of the blood of the Lamb. it is my particular view. Roberto PERU on

Answer 10

Hi oneness!
I'm on pre-tribulation. I dont think that the Groom will allow He's bride to suffer from the hands of the anti-Christ.

try viewing this link: http://www.raptureready.com/rr-pretribulation-rapture.html

hope this help your study.
God bless you!

Answer 11

Keep this answer open for a while (3 days at least). I need to investigate this one a bit. I will edit my answer once I have done my research.

For now, listen to Cashelmara, because she seems to be saying what I have heard said before in my Orthodox Church.