Why are Protestants upset when the Vatican says the their groups have defects when?

Question

.. they are more than willing to tell us that we are defective? If the Protestant groups are upset that we point out that they don't have valid Apostolic Succession , why don't they go to Old Catholic bishops for Ordination,make public profession of belief in the Mass, the divine command for Holy Orders.etc.? Hmm? Why is it that they can constantly criticize us Catholics but we can't say why we don't recognize their "full church-hood"?

if you havenot read thetext-and most of those complaining have not-here it is www.zenit.org/article-2009?1=eng

Dear Mag,
I've read it 4 times. The "Communities of the Reformation' or Protestants are thones named with the defect or lack of valid orders not the Orthodox who are called "sister churches".

The laying on of Hands in Acts and the Pastorals indicates a handing on of authority from god. Through whom? The Apostles and the Church.

Answer 1

That's very true. I am told all the time that I was never really a Christian because I was Catholic. That I was lied to and was always in the hands of Satan. That the Catholic Church is not following Jesus. Not to mention all the insults I got while I was still a Catholic.

Apparently this behavior is okay, but if Catholics say that they do not believe the Protestant church is the true church - well then that's not acceptable.

It is interesting that Protestants claim to be the true followers when their denomination is so fractured and so many variations exist. Even more interesting is that Catholics feel that they will go to heaven for the most part if they follow Jesus - while Protestants damn all Catholics as following Satan.

Answer 2

I'm a protestant and I could care less what some guy in Rome says about my faith. It has always been the RCC's policy that it was the only true church so why so many people are shocked I truly don't know. However, I suppose it could be because the previous pope accomplished alot to draw Christians together and this pope has gone a different direction and that surprised people.

I have never told a Catholic that they are not a Christian as I'm not God and therefore its not my job to decide something like that and many of the Catholics I've known have been wonderful people.

Answer 3

The Vatican didn't say Protestant groups have "defects"--he said that Protestant groups were not Churches.

It was Eastern Orthodox Churches that he said had defects.

Not that it makes much difference, but you are accusing others of not having read a document that you obviously didn't read very closely yourself.

Answer 4

The pope is right and it's not just protestants, it's all the so called Christian denominations out there that are simply ship jumpers that have started their own denominations, and it stems from greed, and has nothing to do with Christianity, and that is the defect they all have, the catholic church is and always will be the true Christian church, May God Bless them that one day they will see the light Amen.

Answer 5

Protesants are unable to admit that Martin luthor's schematic group simply splintered and broke off into multiple groups from his group when "they" found fault with Luthor's doctrines and teachings.
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for the one carrying on and on that the Bible doesn't mention church etc, that's the same rant like the Jehova's that there is no word as Trinity in Scripture,therefore the Trinity doesn't exist......
a prayerful and careful reading of a complete Bible would answer and silence your problems with the Church founded by Christ.
all that's missing so far is that we WORSHIP STATUES...

Answer 6

Protestants feel that they have fixed the elements that were wrong with Roman Catholicism. However I don't think the Pope should be pointing fingers. Especially when he included the Orthodox denominations, when the Catholic church broke off from them because they too felt they were fixing the elements!

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http://www.cafepress.com/buy/pope/-/pv_design_details/pg_7/id_9020981/opt_/fpt_/c_361/

Answer 7

I don't get it either.

The Protestant faith exists, solely because they didn't believe everything they were being taught as part of the Roman Catholic Faith.

So they leave, and form a new faith group, and then they are surprised when the parent-faith group, says they are defective, and missing things.

Wow, talk about denial. Yet, they have absolutely no problems espousing why they left, and how the Catholics are wrong...

Answer 8

Interesting debate from the point of view of the non-believer. I always ponder, why should I have any trust or faith in this "god" person when his supposed "children" cannot get along with each other?
Atheists do not hurt people of faith. The faithful do fine all by themselves.

Answer 9

Well I used to be Catholic and now well I love my Holy Father and his name is God. Religion is nothing..Jesus is what matters. He never said anyone had to be a denomination but where 2 or 3 are gathered in HIS name. I don't like to be told that if I dont confess my sins to a human being I will not get to heaven, I did not like being told I should pray to a woman who herself called her son her Saviour, I prefer to have just one Holy Father. Nobody should be saying anyone has any defect. The only defect between protestants or Catholics would only exist if Jesus was not the center of their lives. That is what is important not how mere men who are sinners just like me say we are suppose to be or what laws we are suppose to follow. Gods laws are the laws we are suppose to follow and you can open up the Book and learn it yourself.

Answer 10

I wonder who has more divisions available in this upcomming Holy War, the Pope or the Methodists.