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I've seen so many people who think that Jesus' real/original/authentic teaching has been corrupted. And I understand that. Who would you say is to blame? Paul? Constantine? The Catholic Church? Martin Luther? Calvin? Right Wing Fundamentalists? Liberal Theologians? I've seen fingers pointed at all of these and more for "hijacking" the gospel of Christ. What's your opinion and why?

2007-07-11 11:14:20 · 8 answers · asked by dreamed1 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I do think Jesus' message has been corrupted the short answer is by humanity but more specifically I believe it has been corrupted by "Christians" (not the genuine ones, just the people who call themselves that) who are judgmental, spiteful, hateful, petty, materialistic, vengeful, shallow...just all around bad people.

I believe the Bible but when I go to church and see a bunch of idiots preening and discussing how much their Chanel sunglasses cost, I have a fleeting wish to hit them in the head with a Bible. Yes, I realize I may, in turn, be accused of being judgmental too in this instance but it's my opinion.

There will always be different interpretations of the Bible - just as there are different interpretations of ANYTHING two or more people see (eg. car accidents, someone's attractiveness etc) but I think it's especially corrupted by people who fly directly in the face of it.

2007-07-11 11:54:11 · answer #1 · answered by luckystrike 2 · 1 0

I don't believe that Christ's message has been corrupted, because he sent us the Holy Spirit to guide the one true fiath which I believe comes from the Catholic Church, because it has apostolic sucession, or the ability to trace its origins to the aposltes themsevles. I don't want to judge, but Martin Luther did a very grave thing in seperating himself from the Authority of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and thus spawing 30,000 plus Christian denominations. God bless.

"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come." John 16:13

"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it" Matthew 16:18

2007-07-11 18:19:48 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Combination of the Roman empire at the insistence of Constantine and the christian church in Rome. Really inspired writings like the gnostic gospels were rejected and o.t. writings inspired by an unholy spirit were included. Result, people trying to get good and evil to harmonize. Not bloody likely my friend. The spirit of truth is the only one who knows everything we need to know and where to find it.

2007-07-11 18:22:43 · answer #3 · answered by single eye 5 · 0 2

I'd like to know when the claim of the Bible being corrupt was first suggested. Could it be when a certain religion in the 7C needed to make the Christian faith look corrupt to make its own claims look legitimate ?

2007-07-11 18:33:14 · answer #4 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 0 0

First and foremost, the Catholic Church after the council of Nicea.

2007-07-11 18:18:22 · answer #5 · answered by Starjumper the R&S Cow 7 · 0 1

The Ego of man corrupts everything it touches.

Christ was a gnostic teacher.

2007-07-11 18:18:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Yes it has been corrupted by people who insist on thinking he was the son of god

2007-07-11 18:18:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The Roman Catholic Church contends that its origin is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ in approximately 30 A.D. The Catholic Church proclaims itself to be the Church that Jesus Christ died for, the Church that was established and built by the Apostles. Is that the true origin of the Catholic Church? On the contrary. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus, or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship / adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in Heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, if the origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Jesus and His apostles, as recorded in the New Testament, what is the true origin of the Catholic Church?

For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine “legalized” Christianity at the Edict of Milan in A.D. 313. Later, in A.D. 325, Constantine called together the Council of Nicea, in an attempt to unify Christianity. Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith, but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine promoted was a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.

Constantine found that with the Roman Empire being so vast, expansive, and diverse – not everyone would agree to forsake their religious beliefs and instead embrace Christianity. So, Constantine allowed, and even promoted, the “Christianization” of pagan beliefs. Completely pagan and utterly unbiblical beliefs were given new “Christian” identities. Some clear examples of this are as follows:

(1) The Cult of Isis, an Egyptian mother-goddess religion, was absorbed into Christianity by replacing Isis with Mary. Many of the titles that were used for Isis, such as “Queen of Heaven,” “Mother of God,” and “theotokos” (God-bearer) were attached to Mary. Mary was given an exalted role in the Christian faith, far beyond what the Bible ascribes to her, in order to attract Isis worshippers to a faith they would not otherwise embrace. Many temples to Isis were, in fact, converted into temples dedicated to Mary. The first clear hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship.

(2) Mithraism was a religion in the Roman Empire in the 1st through 5th centuries A.D. It was very popular among the Romans, especially among Roman soldiers, and was possibly the religion of several Roman emperors. While Mithraism was never given “official” status in the Roman empire, it was the de-facto official religion until Constantine and succeeding Roman emperors replaced Mithraism with Christianity. One of the key features of Mithraism was a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull. Mithras, the god of Mithraism, was “present” in the flesh and blood of the bull, and when consumed, granted salvation to those who partook of the sacrificial meal (theophagy, the eating of one’s god). Mithraism also had seven “sacraments,” making the similarities between Mithraism and Roman Catholicism too many to ignore. Constantine and his successors found an easy substitute for the sacrificial meal of Mithraism in concept of the Lord’s Supper / Christian Communion. Sadly, some early Christians had already begun to attach mysticism to the Lord’s Supper, rejecting the Biblical concept of a simple and worshipful remembrance of Christ’s death and shed blood. The Romanization of the Lord’s Supper made the transition to a sacrificial consumption of Jesus Christ, now known as the Catholic Mass / Eucharist, complete.

(3) Most Roman emperors (and citizens) were henotheists. A henotheist is one who believes in the existence of many gods, but focuses primary on one particular god, or considers one particular god supreme over the other gods. For example, the Roman god Jupiter was supreme over the Roman pantheon of gods. Roman sailors were often worshippers of Neptune, the god of the oceans. When the Catholic Church absorbed Roman paganism, it simply replaced the pantheon of gods with the saints. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these, and many other categories. Just as many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, so the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for the cities.

(4) The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. With the city of Rome being the center of government for the Roman empire, and with the Roman emperors living in Rome, the city of Rome rose to prominence in all facets of life. Constantine, and his successors, gave their support to the bishop of Rome as the supreme ruler of the church. Of course it is best for the unity of the Roman empire that the government and state religion be centered in the same location. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. When the Roman empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors – Pontificus Maximus.

Many more examples could be given. These four should suffice in demonstrating the true origin of the Catholic Church. Of course the Roman Catholic Church denies the pagan origin of its beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church disguises its pagan beliefs under layers of complicated theology. The Catholic Church excuses and denies its pagan origin beneath the mask of “church tradition.” Recognizing that many of its beliefs and practices are utterly foreign to Scripture, the Catholic Church is forced to deny the authority and sufficiency of Scripture.

The origin of the Catholic Church is the tragic compromise of Christianity with the pagan religions that surrounded it. Instead of proclaiming the Gospel and converting the pagans, the Catholic Church “Christianized” the pagan religions, and “paganized” Christianity. By blurring the differences and erasing the distinctions, yes, the Catholic Church made itself attractive to the people of the Roman empire. One result was the Catholic Church becoming the supreme religion in the “Roman world” for centuries. However, another result was the most dominant form of Christianity apostatizing from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and the true proclamation of God’s Word.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 declares, “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”

Recommended Resource: Reasoning from the Scriptures with Catholics by Ron Rhodes.

2007-07-11 18:20:00 · answer #8 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 4

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