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people that claim that death is punishment for original sin, does that mean animals sinned too?

cause animals die... and plants die too... did plants sin...?

explain...

2007-07-11 09:13:16 · 13 answers · asked by Chippy v1.0.0.3b 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

if god punished everything for adam/eves doing, how exactly is that just?

2007-07-11 09:14:05 · update #1

13 answers

Stop making sense.

2007-07-11 09:17:34 · answer #1 · answered by Samurai Jack 6 · 3 2

Original Sin or any other Sin sooner or later brings about an unhappy consequence in life. The human default system was meant to be life for ever. We altered that by our own folly and destroyed the default system. That Jesus died for us to be free means just that Forgiveness from God is possible to a genuine seeker but the consequences man brings onto himself remains to be faced on this earth.If you child throws a tantrum you may forgive him ,but the fall and bleeding sustained is still for the child to bear.
Hence we say it resulted in Death. Animals and plants were not created with the Choices that humans have.
The story of Mankind had to start somewhere ,so Adam and Eve was a good starting point.

2007-07-11 09:36:44 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

To my knowledge, the "original sin" was Adam and Eve defying God by eating from the tree of knowledge. As far as I can tell, the punishment for that was(a) being thrown out of the Garden of Eden and (b) painful childbirth. Death was never meant as a punishment, only a new beginning. I suggest checking out the book of Genisis and considering buying a commentary.

2007-07-11 09:22:21 · answer #3 · answered by detlefren 2 · 0 0

Sin introduced corruption.
Corruption always results in death.
The principle was carried out throughout all creation.

"The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

Romans 8:19-22

2007-07-11 09:28:09 · answer #4 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 0 0

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2016-11-09 01:19:48 · answer #5 · answered by vereen 4 · 0 0

Death is not a consequence of sin.

If you are a Genesis person, you will recall that after they had sinned, one of the reasons God expelled Adam and Eve from the garden was in order to PREVENT them from eating of the tree of life and living forever!

In other words:
They were not immortal before they had sinned!
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2007-07-11 09:22:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

It was not just. To punish children (and grandchildren) for the sins of their parents is barbaric. Truthfully, I don't know how anybody could read that in chapter 1 of a book and then be motivated to read chapter 2.

2007-07-11 09:17:15 · answer #7 · answered by Alan 7 · 1 1

I claim that death is the eventual loss of telomerase which regulate cell division. when you run out of those, your cells die and don't divide anymore. That's what causes death by old age and things related to it. I also believe in germs and viruses that can overload a body and kill it dead by causing things to shut down. It's the same in every living thing. Nothing mystic or magical about it.

2007-07-11 09:18:16 · answer #8 · answered by Jake S 5 · 1 1

This is the best question ever....you will get a myriad of answers, but nothing will make sense. We die because of biological limitations, not god being pissed at something that supposedly happened 4.5 billion years ago. If that is the case, he really needs to let things go.

2007-07-11 09:17:13 · answer #9 · answered by dusmul78 4 · 0 2

Death is separation. A physical death is the separation of the soul from the body. Spiritual death, which is of greater significance, is the separation of the soul from God.

In Genesis 2:17, God tells Adam that in the day he eats of the forbidden fruit he will “surely die.” Adam does fall, but his physical death does not occur immediately; God must have had another type of death in mind—spiritual death. This separation from God is exactly what we see in Genesis 3:8. When Adam and Eve heard the voice of the Lord, they “hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God.” The fellowship had been broken. They were spiritually dead.

When Jesus was hanging on the cross, He paid the price for us by dying on our behalf. Even though He is God, He still had to suffer to agony of a temporary separation from the Father due to the sin of world He was carrying on the cross. After three hours of supernatural darkness, He cries, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” (Mark 15:33-34). This spiritual separation from the Father was the result of the Son’s taking our sins upon Himself. That’s the impact of sin. Sin is the exact opposite of God and God had to turn away from His own Son at that point in time.

A man without Christ is spiritually dead. Paul describes it as “being alienated from the life of God” in Ephesians 4:18. (To be separated from life is the same as being dead.) The natural man, like Adam hiding in the garden, is isolated from God.

When we are born again, the spiritual death is reversed. Before salvation, we are dead (spiritually), but Jesus gives us life. “And you hath he quickened [made alive], who were dead in trespasses and sins” (Ephesians 2:1). “Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ” (Ephesians 2:5). “And you, being dead in your sins . . . hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses” (Colossians 2:13).

To illustrate, think of Jesus’ raising of Lazarus in John 11. The physically dead Lazarus could do nothing for himself. He was unresponsive to all stimuli, oblivious to all life around him, beyond all help or hope—except for the help of Christ, “the Resurrection and the Life” (John 11:25). At Christ’s call, Lazarus was filled with life, and he responded accordingly. In the same way, we were spiritually dead, unable to save ourselves, powerless to perceive the life of God—until Jesus called us to Himself. He “quickened” us; “not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us” (Titus 3:5).

The book of Revelation speaks of a “second death,” which is a final (and eternal) separation from God. Only those who have never experienced new life in Christ will partake of the second death (Revelation 2:11; 20:6, 14; 21:8).

Recommended Resource: What the Bible Says about Heaven & Eternity by Ice & Demy.

2007-07-11 09:22:18 · answer #10 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 1

man was born with original sin

2007-07-11 09:17:05 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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