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Do you agree with this?

I am Catholic and I do not like the new pope one bit,

I liked John Paul 2, Benedict not so much.

2007-07-11 04:50:41 · 32 answers · asked by 1 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The Pope can have his own opinions, but I disagree with him 100%.

What religion someone choses is up to them. You can't just go around knocking other religions and sects because you don't like them.

2007-07-11 04:52:47 · update #1

32 answers

A I agree that this is what the popes say. Do I agree with the statement? Not in the least.

2007-07-11 04:53:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

I am Catholic and I don't agree 100% with Benedict. I happen to think the Orthodox (Oriental) church is perfectly fine and not "defective" however I can see his point on the Prodestant side - there are so many denominations that it makes the theology seem diluted.

The idea that we may see us going back to the Latin Mass makes me happy. Vatican 2 had just reformed the mass to it's present state, and I only vaguely remember what was left from my childhood. Many of the rituals fell on the wayside in an attempt to modernise, which I think was a mistake.

Joseph Campbell said that once the priest turned to face the congregation during the blessing of the Sacraments, it was more like watching a cooking show than witnessing a mysterious and blessed event. It's true. Much of the mystery and awesomeness (and I don't mean awesome as in great) is the fact that there is not a complete understanding of what takes place. We can certainly put ourselves in the Apostles shoes, who by and large, were clueless to what they were witnessing.

As a Maronite Catholic our mass is more similar to the Orthodox in that we have deacons who sing part of the mass and there is more chanting and incense. These, to me are the foundations of where we come from and it is important. So in that respect, I agree with the Pope. But he isn't scoring points with me either.

2007-07-11 05:12:29 · answer #2 · answered by anonevyl 4 · 1 1

I agree with you. Though I am an unbeliever, I had a lot of respect and admiration for the late John Paul II. He seemed like a truly loving man with good intentions. The new Pope seems more divisive to me. I am suprised he would claim that Protestants aren't true faiths, since they're also based on the same Jesus. Once again, he is looking for ways that people disagree instead of looking for what we all have in common. That to me is a step backward.

2007-07-11 05:11:18 · answer #3 · answered by Graciela, RIRS 6 · 0 0

I'm not Christian or Catholic or even believe in a god or gods but, my family is Christian so I know some of this.

Remember that the pope is human, all humans have different opinions and most of them, you disagree with.

And if you have any problem you being Catholic, you don't have to be Catholic, you can still change religion.

2007-07-11 04:56:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is not the Pope's opinion but a dogma of the RC Church and no one, not even a Pope can change dogma. Pope Benedict XVl is just reasserting Catholic dogma. The Popes of old and the saints have always confirmed the fact that the Roman Catholic Church is the one and only true Church and there is no salvation outside the RC Church. He speaks the truth whether people think that is popular or not.

The Catholic Church has solemnly defined three times by infallible declarations that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
The most explicit and forceful of the three came from Pope Eugene IV, in the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441, who proclaimed ex cathedra: "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire 'which was prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her... No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."
The other two infallible declarations are as follows: 'There is one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved.' Pope Innocent III, ex cathedra, (Fourth Lateran Council, 1215).
'We declare, say , define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.' Pope Boniface VIII, (Unam Sanctam, 1302).
This means, and has always meant, that salvation and unity exist only within the Catholic Church, and that members of heretical groups cannot be considered as "part" of the Church of Christ. This doctrine has been the consistent teaching of the Popes throughout the centuries.

St. Augustine (354-430), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the Name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."

St. Fulgentius (468-533), Bishop: "Most firmly hold and never doubt that not only pagans, but also Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

Pope St. Gregory the Great (590-604): "The holy universal Church teaches that it is not possible to worship God truly except in Her and asserts that all who are outside of Her will not be saved."

St. Francis of Assisi (1182-1226): "All who have not believed that Jesus Christ was really the Son of God are doomed. Also, all who see the Sacrament of the Body of Christ and do not believe it is really the most holy Body and Blood of the Lord . . . these also are doomed!"

St. Thomas Aquinas (1226-1274), the Angelic Doctor: There is no entering into salvation outside the Catholic Church, just as in the time of the Flood there was not salvation outside the Ark, which denotes the Church."

St. Louis Marie de Montfort (1673-1716): "There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Anyone who resists this truth perishes."

2007-07-12 08:25:29 · answer #5 · answered by Pat 3 · 0 0

The Catholic Church has always taught that it is the fullness of the true Faith which does not mean that the others are false bu t that they are incomplete.

Since I am Catholic ,I very much agree with the Catholic Church's claim to being the original and full Church that the others derive from and do not have its fullness. If i did not believe and profess this, I would consider my staying in the Catholic Church foolish and two-faced.

2007-07-11 04:57:39 · answer #6 · answered by James O 7 · 1 1

Yah its comforting that there are hundreds of different religions and denominations within even the same religion saying hey if you dont practice it my way you wont get to paradise. Not all of these people can be right. I had a Catholic guy tell me that once that if I wasnt going ot a Catholic church I was going to hell. I think religions teach this stuff to try to gain and keep followers. Who wants to die in hell?

2007-07-11 05:01:43 · answer #7 · answered by timssterling 4 · 0 0

No... Catholicism is a scam. The Pope's job is to lie and keep others from discovering the truth... at any cost.

The Pope (including John Paul) has done nothing about the pedophiles in his church and has continued to thwart scientific progress on "moral grounds" although he lacks the moral authority to do so.

2007-07-11 05:04:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

i could say he's keeping the religion from grievous blunders and perchance from heresy. The Church has continuously taught that each and one and all who persist with a typical, common and pronounced judgment of right and incorrect may be saved in spite of religious association. yet she additionally teaches that the final thank you to get carry of and shelter this variety of judgment of right and incorrect is with the aid of being an honestly member because of the fact the Catholic Church on my own possesses the fullness of actuality. The complicated section is the human element in the Church which each and every each and every now and then supplies and fails to grant the excellent element with regard to the doubt to non-Catholics as quickly as we ought to comprehend that merely God is the choose in those concerns. The Catholic Church ought to proceed to maintain that it is the "one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church" based with the aid of Jesus, yet recognizes that the Holy Spirit could hire different Christian communities to deliver human beings to salvation. The Church teaches that it is spoke of as with the aid of the Holy Spirit to paintings for cohesion between all Christians (& different faiths) -- a stream prevalent as ecumenism. the only way the Catholic Church may be destroyed now is with the aid of changing or changing any the the articles of religion and different infallible pronouncements. devil will attempt below the guise of modernization, devil can no longer throw in the towel.

2016-10-01 09:15:17 · answer #9 · answered by delilah 4 · 0 0

Here is the full text of the new document that states nothing new: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html

Most Christian denominations believe that each of them is the fullest version of the Church of Christ.

While the Catholic Church also believes that she is "the highest exemplar" of the mystery that is the Church of Christ, she does not claim that non-Catholic Churches are not truly Christian. The Catholic Church teaches:

Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.

Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church.

All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 819: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p3.htm#819

With love in Christ.

2007-07-12 16:33:30 · answer #10 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 1

No, you are letting the news commentaries tell you what the document says instead of reading the actual document for yourself.

Here is a real quote from teh document:

It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them.[

It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation. In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation,

2007-07-11 05:55:18 · answer #11 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 1 1

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