Jesus didn't die on the cross....because crosses aren't real?????

Question

"I don't know cuz the cross wasn't even put in to use untill hundreds of years after jesus's death ,like all christains on this site they have nothing but here say to contribute,not historical facts thus aiding more athisits "

This, without trying to correct it in any manner, was an answer to a question asking why Jesus had to die.


Can anyone give me any proof Crosses weren't used hundreds of years after Jesus was alive?

Rather, instead of giving me proof they weren't used hundreds of years after, can anyone give me proof they were used while Jesus was alive?

frenzalpixie,

Why can't your fellow non-believers have a good attitude like you? Instead of giving me some bs answer because you don't believe what I believe, you honored my feelings and answered with your opinion.

But it seems the people that surround you do not have closed minds, they also have closed hearts...how can they be so hateful to not respect my question? Anyway, that's my rant for today, it's late!!

Jesus Christ Superstar....how were there 1000 years of crusades? I would say 300-400 years at best...

Lol, and how can you say He is not a real person? I understand if you say He wasn't the son of God, or a prophet, but denying He even lived? Even anti-christian historians wrote about Jesus and his actions with the Jewish court.

Answer 1

Crucifixion (of some sort) has been around since well before Christ was born.

There is even evidence that pirates were crucified in the port of Athens around the 7th century BC.

Some forms of Crucifixion was for punishment, and some were for death.

Punishment by crucifixion was used by Assyria, Achaemenid Persia, the Greeks, Carthaginians, Macedonians and from very early times Rome.

Crucifixion was a common method of punishment in Egypt however unlike other areas it was done by cutting the opposite limbs of a person and using the palm tree as a stake according to, The earliest historical record of crucifixion was made in 519 BC when Darius I, the Persian King of Kings, crucified 3000 political opponents in Babylon.

Answer 2

The Greek word "stauros" has a BASIC meaning of "stake". While the basic meaning doesn't imply a crosspiece, a crosspiece was sometimes attached to a stake or pole, making a form of a T. The Letter of Barnabas which was written about the time the apostle John died, or shortly thereafter, uses the word 'stauros' and describes it in the shape of a T.

There are other examples of the words stauros and crux (the Latin equivalent of stauros) being used to describe a cross. Even today, the English word 'pole' is used to describe stakes with crosspieces even though the dictionary meaning doesn't indicate the addition of a crosspiece. Just look for yourself next time you drive along the road, and see there are many poles that are crosses in shape. Would anyone argue that they aren't 'poles'?

There is no absolute date that one can find as to when "crosses" began to be used. We do know however that in the first century when Jesus died, the writer Seneca referred to a variety of torture stakes, so it certainly can't be said with absolute conviction that Jesus could NOT have died on a cross. Or that he did.

Answer 3

The Greek word stau ros means 'stake' or 'pale.' This proves Jesus was impaled on a torture stake rather than crucified on a cross. Bible translators are being dishonest in rendering stau ros as cross.

The cross did not become a permanent symbol of redemption until the Edict of Milan in A.D. 313 and the idea of this being the device used with Jesus became more popular since then.
By this time though mainstream Christianity had been corrupted by Pagan traditions , apostates and men trying to mislead many.

Answer 4

related to God growing to be this planet, it is interior the 1st element of the Bible. I recommend you study it for it is not too long. Now, did Jesus truly dies on the flow in actual existence? He truly did! it is truly helpful to flow to the place he replaced into tombed. in spite of the undeniable fact that, i'm conscious that folk can truthfully think of that "properly, they'd have basically made it up that Jesus replaced into right here." yet, yet it is not undemanding to instruct that Jesus died on the flow (till there replaced right into a Roman checklist of the form from Pilate or somebody different than the Bible) there's a data that Jesus has risen back! The data is that Romans persecuted people who believed in Jesus Christ while he rose back. The question starts, "Why could the Romans do the style of ingredient if Jesus Christ replaced into no longer actual or did no longer die on the flow?" i do no longer think of that replaced into purely a sort of entertainment.

Answer 5

Well if it wasn't like that how did he die then? I mean He die 4 you and He did die in a cross maybe if you read the bible you will find the best answer. I'm not trying to be rude or mean I'm just saying that why wouldn't you believe that He die in a cross? Well good luck and God bless!

*MS.G*

Answer 6

it was used from very early on in Ancient Egypt and Assyria. Crucifixion, in one form or another, was also used by Achaemenid Persia, the Greeks, Carthaginians, Macedonians and from very early times Rome. There is evidence that captured pirates were crucified in the port of Athens around the 7th century BC.

And I guess that the rebels with Spartacus weren't crucified either. You fly in the face of accepted archeology.

Answer 7

Ah Brian, I am an atheist, i do not believe Jesus was a real person. but Crosses were around LONG before Jesus.
A better question is why do people wear an implement of torture that became the symbol for many an ethnic cleansing and a milenium of crusades?

Edit there are a few links if you actually take the time to read any of it.

Even if he did exist to me there is a better chance that he didnt exist than that god does.

Answer 8

Actually, crosses have been used for thousands of years for crucifixing people. Other ancient religious groups used them as torture devices. So there you go. Jesus was crucified, but I don't believe he was the son of God.

Answer 9

Sorry, the only proof that I can give and the proof that is good enough for me is the Bible and the teachings of my church. :) (I don't know if there is other proof out there, this is just the only thing I am sure of!)

Answer 10

Crucifixion was definitely in use by the Romans at that time.

Wikipedia has a very informative article on it.