Is there going to be yet another civil war...?

Question

Ok. So hi, my name is Phil.

In the 16th century, there was a man called Martin Luther. He challenged the Catholic church because they were doing evil things like scamming poor peasants with "indulgences".

That was eventually sorted out with the reformation and the formation of the Protestant church.

But a couple of days ago, the POPE (Yeah, the Hitler-youth one), decided that only the CATHOLIC church were really "churches". All others, including me, are "pale imitations", as so called in a sixteen page report about how Catholicism is the only REAL church.

So uhh, where did this come from?

Aren't we ALL the children of God?

Sure, we've had our century-long bloodbaths and wars, but aren't we both Christians?

Well, I thought that but apparently the POPE thinks otherwise.

So uhh,

What is to become of this? Is there going to be another civil war amongst Christianity?

Thoughts.... Opinions...?

Astral_Ids.....

Maybe you're missing about TWO HUNDRED YEARS of on-and-off war between Protestant England and Catholic Continental Europe?

I think you've missed out on one of the biggest wars in history...

"Never agreed on doctrine"?

We've done fairly well for the last three hundred years..... Gotten along just fine....

Why does some Pope have to come along and screw it all up!

Answer 1

The two errors of Luther, it can be seen, contain within them two seeds of truth; salvation is indeed the work of God, and not the work of Man, and Scripture is indeed the very Word of God, which should be accorded the highest authority; but Luther goes wrong when he takes these very true principles and elevates them to the point that they exclude the other truths involved. If salvation is God's work, it is also true that part of God's work is drawing Man up to the status of sonship, so that Man now becomes privileged to share in the work of God - a co-worker with God, as St. Paul put it; if Scripture should be given the highest authority, the next highest authority in the hierarchy is not the individual believer, but the "God-breathed" Magisterium of the Church (cf. Jn. 20:21-23). There can be no eliminating this Divinely appointed "middle man," and substituting the authority of the individual for the authority of the Church.

In sum, we can take these two foundational pillars of the Reformation, and demonstrate how they contain necessary truths in their essence; but we must also show how they unnecessarily truncate the truth, and thus become enemies of the very principles they wish to promote. The Protestant truths here are hampered because they are left incomplete; sola scriptura needs to be understood as prima scriptura, so that the truth concerning the Church can be admitted into the discussion; sola fide needs to be understood as sola gratia, so that the truth about Divine sonship can be allowed to flourish.

Answer 2

Christians have never agreed on doctrine. There is nothing new about that.

Even in the very beginning, Peter and James disagreed so strongly with Paul about the true teachings of Jesus that they kicked him out of their community and sent him to preach to the Gentiles. Since they held the opinion that the teachings of Jesus were only meant for the Jews, this was basically an excommunication of Paul.

The situation hasn't improved since.

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"We've done fairly well for the last three hundred years..... Gotten along just fine...."

That's nonsense. As just one example of how wrong that statement is, maybe you should do some reading about Northern Ireland.

Answer 3

I have a few thoughts on the matter. I find it significant that the majority of my Catholic raised family members no longer worship at all once they were given a choice. I know many members of my church were once Catholic and now have chosen to go and find something more acceptable for them and their families. I think the Catholic Church may be feeling a loss of members first through their young adults walking away and then their reluctance to return to the Catholic Church when they do decide to again become active Christians. I think they probably decide to return so as to raise their families in a Christian faith, but one that hopefully their own children will continue to embrace after they have free choice.

Answer 4

Yah I miss Pope John Paol the 2nd already the hitler wanna be looks scary and he doesn't seem to go really any where except Germany and he doesn't help with anything. I dont like him. I'm not catholic so i guess myabe im a little one sided but to say what he did was wrong.

Answer 5

oh gowd!

i think ure confusing civil war with Crusade. anyways, it wont happen. because religion doesnt mean as much as it did a few hundreds years ago in western culture. more likely to happen a war over prices on gas, defense systems in eastern Europe, Israel's borders, Bush the third US president.

concerning pope -- i wouldnt be worried about him and what he says. catholic church never did acknowledged any other church as pure christian. thats why it is Catholic)) i wouldnt call him a Nazi either -- show some respect to other yahoo users!

Answer 6

I believe that there will be another Civil War in the US, or at least a period of extreme unrest--but I don't believe that it will be over religion. Religion just isn't as important to people today as it was in the past.

I believe that our economy in the US is going to worsen in terms of people no longer being able to live the American Dream. Executive pay keeps on climbing, and more working-class people are being locked out of purchasing homes due to how much real estate has outpaced inflation and income levels.

I believe this will be a long time in the future before it happens, but our nation is headed for bad times.

Answer 7

No we've already broke with the Catholic church. They think we are heretics, so it does not matter what we do we are condemned to hell. Now as for the other Christian Churches, we bicker over rituals and belief. One believes you have to be baptized, no matter your age. Another you can not eat some foods. They are using only part of the bible as a foundation for their church.

Answer 8

There wasn't really a war last time as the pope at hte time of the reformation was powerful enough to wage war on the protestants. It was mainly a war of words. with all side excommunicating the other side.

I doubt that there will be a civil war as the church is powerful enough today to command armies.

Answer 9

Not a war. Just a world wishing Pope John Paul II had never died, or at least had leaned the cardinals towards a better successor.

Answer 10

This is nothing new. The Catholic church has always despised other religions. Look at history and all the people who died for disagreeing with it