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If he was the snake in the garden of eden, he must've did the whole war on god thing before adam & eve got kicked out of paradise, but its not mentioned in genesis. So where did our idea of a rebellion of angels under lucifer morningstar? Most things seem to reference milton's paradise lost, i'm wondering if there is a biblical account of something similar.

2007-07-10 09:55:36 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I'm not going to go into the whole thing.

But if you read Isaiah 14 & Eziekiel 28 You will get the "behind the scenes" story of the Fall of Lucifer.
It was then that he became Satan.


...theBerean

2007-07-10 10:02:32 · answer #1 · answered by theBerean 5 · 3 0

Satan’s fall from heaven is described in Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the king of Babylon and the King of Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power that was behind those kings - Satan. In regards to when Satan fell, these passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not specifically say when the fall occurred. What we do know is this: the angels were created before the earth (Job 38:4-7). Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden (Genesis 3:1-14). Satan’s fall, therefore, must have occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Whether Satan’s fall occurred a few minutes, hours, or days before he tempted Adam and Eve in the garden, Scripture does not specifically say.

Why did Satan fall from Heaven? Satan fell because of pride. He desired to be God, not to be a servant of God. Notice the many "I will..." statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Ezekiel 28:12-15 describes Satan as an exceedingly beautiful angel. Satan was likely the highest of all angels, the most beautiful of all of God's creations. Satan was not content in his position. Instead, Satan desired to be God, to essentially "kick God off His throne" and take over the rule of the universe. Satan wanted to be God, and interestingly enough, that is what Satan tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1-5). How did Satan fall from Heaven? Actually, a fall is not an accurate description. It would be far more accurate to say that God cast Satan out of Heaven (Isaiah 14:15; Ezekiel 28:16-17).

Recommended Resource: Angels: Elect & Evil by C. Fred Dickason.

2007-07-10 18:05:59 · answer #2 · answered by Freedom 7 · 1 0

In the fully-developed Christian tradition, Jerome's Vulgate translation of Isaiah 14:12 has made Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel, who must lament the loss of his original glory as the morning star. This image at last defines the character of Satan, where the Church Fathers had maintained that lucifer was not the proper name of the Devil, and that it referred rather to the state from which he had fallen; St. Jerome gave it Biblical authority when he transformed it into Satan's proper name

2007-07-10 17:02:30 · answer #3 · answered by John C 6 · 0 0

I think the only allusions to it in the Old Testament are Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. I think people of Jewish religion interpret these entirely literally. Satan in the Old Testament in the book of Job seems more of a angelic tester, allowed by God to test believers, although in Zecheriah he is shown with a nasty character. If you read Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14 closely you can see they may have a secondary (hidden) meaning.
This would more apparent to the early church, especially with Jesus teaching on Satan, and his explanation of the Scriptures.

At one time, when the disciples have come back from healing with Jesus the Anointed One's authority, they are all excited and thrilled as they have seen healings and demons coming out of people. Jesus joins in saying "I say Satan fall like lightning from heaven".

Revelation 12 also has a passage, which talks about Satan being cast down "with a third of the stars" (stars are often used to represent angels). So that is saying a third of God's angels rebelled with Satan.

There is also other teaching on Satan, with regard to other aspects of life, of course.

2007-07-10 19:48:04 · answer #4 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 0 0

You are confusing Satan with Lucifer,

The Father, The son, the Holy spirit...

IN hell, as God is fair, there are three also... Satan, Lucifer and Beelzebub...

Each one of them is symbolized in the Jew Star of the Star of Salomon.

2007-07-10 20:03:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The fall of Lucifer is described in Isaiah 14. For a sample verse--14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Satan's ultimate destruction is described in Ezekiel 28. For a sample verse--28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Please notice that Satan will be destroyed for eternity. You see, the wages of sin is death--an eternal punishment. Not eternal life in hades--an eternal punishing. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

For the complete plan of redemption as revealed in a last-day Bible code, select: http://abiblecode.tripod.com

Blessings, Balaam

2007-07-10 17:05:06 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Actually I think "Lucifer" comes from an older Pagan faith, but don't qoute me on that. He was incorporated into the JEWISH faith, ie OT as the counter balance to God. Good vs Evil.

2007-07-10 16:58:46 · answer #7 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 0 0

Revelation

Look at chapter 12 verse 9

2007-07-10 16:58:20 · answer #8 · answered by Ask_Elvis 5 · 1 1

there are accounts in Isaiah 14 and Exodus 28
Isaiah 14:
12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Ezekiel 28:
11 The word of the LORD came to me: 12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
" 'You were the model of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz and emerald,
chrysolite, onyx and jasper,
sapphire, [b] turquoise and beryl. [c]
Your settings and mountings [d] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.

15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.

16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, O guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.

17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.

18 By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.

19 All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more.' "

2007-07-10 17:08:17 · answer #9 · answered by jassie192000 2 · 1 0

Revelation 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

2007-07-10 17:06:25 · answer #10 · answered by SDC 5 · 0 0

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