Atheist! For the last time -do you support Israel or not?

Question

Boy,hypocritical or what? I run a question asking how atheists feel about Christians United for Israel and fundie support for Israel generally. All the atheists answer they have no problem with any of that. Then I post another asking why they support israel - and spending 3/4 of our foreign aid on it - and they all demand to know my "source" - in other words,where on earth I might have gotten the idea they support the Israeli government... Um...the responses from the atheists to the first question perchance?
I've been trying for months to find out whether or not atheists support israel or a free Palestine; if so,why; if not,why not. Can't you people give a straight reply to anything?

Taurus and barbara do not seem to know where U.S. tax dollars come from. I agree it should be spent in our back yard. It isn't. That's the point - as in "billions of U.S. $ for israel"? You know,I'm really starting to think there is really just a problem with raw intelligence here. Anyone who doesn't know israel is connected to the U.S. economically and militarily would have to be sooooo dumb...

Answer 1

I do not support Israel until Israel starts treating the Palestinians with some dignity. I don't support them because Israel is a hostile power which is occupying Palestinian lands NOT granted to it in the mandate which made it a nation in 1948. This is wrong, yet for some reason the Israelis seem to think these lands which they seized are rightfully theirs. I also do not support Israel's completely out-of-proportion responses to governments like Lebanon, a solder is kidnapped, ergo Lebanon must be destroyed. These are not the actions of a sane nation, nor a nation I believe anyone in the west should have anything to do with.

However, I think it's rather foolish to ask for an atheist opinion on Israel. There are plenty of opinions on Israel - and being a particular religion (or absense thereof) doesn't necesarily assign you to one camp. There are even anti-zionist jews out there.

Answer 2

Jewish people there are unfriendly? You Venezuelans aren't nice to them either. Jews are some of the nicest and friendliest people i've ever met. During the night of January 31, 2009, following Israel's incursion into Gaza, an armed gang consisting of 15 unidentified men broke into Tiferet Israel, the synagogue of the Israelite Association of Venezuela, the oldest synagogue in the Venezuelan capital Caracas and occupied the building for several hours.[35] The gang tied and gagged security guards before destroying offices and the place where holy books were kept; it must be noted that this happened during the Jewish shabbat. They daubed the walls with anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli graffiti that called for Jews to be expelled from the country[36] Late on the evening of Feb. 26, 2009, a homemade bomb was thrown into the Orthodox Beit Shmuel in Caracas. The bomb damaged windows and a car, but no human beings were injured.[39][40][41] Two attacks on synagogues..? Israel is NOT an illegal state. Israel was formed by the United Nations in the Palestinian Mandate- a piece of land owned by Britain and nobody else. It isn't the "Palestinians" land. Before it was owned by Britain, it was part of the Ottoman Empire. You are honestly saying you would commit suicide by strapping a bomb around your waist and running into a pizza parlor? You would be proud of that? No wonder Jewish people are unfriendly.

Answer 3

I'll be honest with you - I don't pay enough attention to that issue to even have an opinion on it. I tend to pay more attention to issues inside America like poverty, education, the outrageous cost of medical care, the gouging the pharmaceutical companies do, the degradation of America's farmers, etc..

Edit: I prefer to help those I can here and not worry about half the world away. Of course I know economically the US & Isreal are connected - you have no idea what kind of industry I work in so before making assumptions perhaps you should email the person instead. Oh sorry there, perhap you can't do that as you don't seem mature enough to keep your email open.

Answer 4

I hate nothing in this world. But Israel is simply an evil, religious bully that needs to be put in its place. That place is out of occupied lands. If I was going to hate anything Israel, as a concept, would be it.

Atheist.

and BTW, this is a prime example of the ignorance about Atheists. We, unlike Theists, do not all think alike. We are individuals with separate ideas and beliefs about just about everything except the one thing that makes us Atheist..

Answer 5

Logical reasoning is the only thing that needs to be supported, in every issue. We don't have hatred and wars because the world is suffering from too much logical thinking, do we?

When people come to their senses, whether Israelis or Arabs, peace has a chance.

Peace is the daughter of Reason. Wherever Reason has its way, Peace begins to bloom.

To be an atheist is only the beginning of Reason. To be religious is to make Reason impossible, because its place will be taken by the dangerous emotion called Faith.

Faith is more dangerous and destructive than anger. It takes Faith to believe that our life is incomplete without a mystical, supernatural imaginary being that holds our hand throughout life and tells us what to think, what to eat, when to fast, how to dress, how to worship. It also takes faith to believe that when a comet appears in the sky, it is His sign that beckons us to go "home" and meet Him. That same strong faith makes us believe that it is the will of God that commands us to hijack a plane and fly it into a building to be a martyr and go to paradise. It takes Faith, not Reason to justify any violence.

Answer 6

For the last time, some atheists do and some don't. Atheism is simply a disbelief in God or gods. Atheism is not a political stand. There are atheists who support abortion and those that don't, atheists who support capital punishment and those that don't, atheists who....well, you get my drift, right?

So the answer is, atheists, AS A GROUP, do not hold a stand regarding Israel or Palestine.

Answer 7

I'm an atheist (former Christian) who does NOT support the idea of Zionism.
And my brother-in-law is an atheist who was born Jewish, and he doesn't support it either.
ANY so-called "god"---Christian or Jewish---isn't in the real estate business. Why does it take a lack of religion to embrace this simple conclusion?
And why should I buy into anyone's belief that their "god" bequeathed the land of Israel to some so-called "Chosen People"? Religion has no place in politics; the only president in my memory that didn't try and shove his religion down anyone's throat was Carter.

Answer 8

There is no unified atheist movement. You get atheists of every political persuasion. Expecting to find out whether atheists support any political cause is futile.

And Israel isn't incompatible with a free Palestine. You can support both.

Answer 9

No I do not support funding the state of Israel. Why is it a state and not a country? Because it was funded by the United States? I think they have gotten enough money from our hard earned taxes.

Answer 10

To be perfectly honest, I am one person here living my own life. I have nothing to do with that part of the world. Do they care and support my community? Didn't think so...they probably have equally as little interest as I do in the visa versa.