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Can someone of the JW faith please tell me the realationship between Michael the Arch Angel and Jesus?
I am definately not picking a fight, It has never been explained to me by an actual believer of the JW faith. Is Jesus... Michael?

Please don't answer my question with a question. If you would like to email me "side-bar" click on my picture and email me. I am asking because I do not know what you believe...not to argue.

I guess a better question would have been are Jesus and Michael the same personage

Answer 1

15 Who accomplish this great victory in Jehovah’s name? The Bible says it is Michael and his angels. But who is Michael? The name “Michael” means “Who Is Like God?” So Michael must be interested in vindicating Jehovah’s sovereignty by proving that no one is to be compared to Him. In Jude verse 9, he is called “Michael the archangel.” Interestingly, the title “archangel” is used elsewhere in the Bible with reference to only one person: Jesus Christ. Paul says of him: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The title “archangel” means “chief of the angels.” So it is not surprising that Revelation speaks of “Michael and his angels.” Other places where the Bible mentions angels subject to a righteous servant of God have reference to Jesus. Thus, Paul speaks of “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels.”—2 Thessalonians 1:7; see also Matthew 24:30, 31; 25:31.

16 These and other scriptures lead us to the inescapable conclusion that Michael is no one else but the Lord Jesus Christ in his heavenly position. Now, in the Lord’s day, he no longer merely says to Satan: “May Jehovah rebuke you.” Since this is a time of judging, Jesus, as Michael, hurls the wicked Satan and his demonic angels down from heaven. (Jude 9; Revelation 1:10) It is most fitting that He should be the One to do this, as He is the newly installed King. Jesus is also the Seed, promised back in Eden, who will ultimately crush the head of the Serpent, thus putting him out of existence for all time. (Genesis 3:15) By ejecting Satan from heaven, Jesus has moved toward that final crushing.

Answer 2

They are the same person.

Archangel in Greek is literally 'Chief Messenger'

This the same as the title 'Word', which literally means
'Spokesman', So 'The Word' is the Chief Spokesman for Jehovah.

Notice what a first century Christian wrote:

J. N. D. Kelly, in his Early Christian Doctrines, writes about the view of Hermas regarding the Son of God:

“In a number of passages we read of an angel who is superior to the six angels forming God’s inner council, and who is regularly described as ‘most venerable’, ‘holy’, and ‘glorious’. This angel is given the name of Michael, and the conclusion is difficult to escape that Hermas saw in him the Son of God and equated him with the archangel Michael.”

“There is evidence also . . . of attempts to interpret Christ as a sort of supreme angel . . . Of a doctrine of the Trinity in the strict sense there is of course no sign.

A reasonably close parallel to 'εν φωνη αρχαγγελου, en phone archangelou' (with an/the archangel's voice) in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is at 2 Peter 2:16: “the dumb *** speaking with man's voice”. Here we have 'εν φωνη, en phone' (with the/a voice) together with a genitive. The donkey was speaking with a man's voice - but it was the donkey that was speaking, not a man nearby. Likewise, in all other cases where 'en phone' is used in the NT, the voice in question always belongs to the subject of the sentence, not some unspecified third person. - See Revelation 5:2; 14:7, 9; 18:1.


When the archangel's voice is heard, “the dead in Christ shall rise first” (1 Thessalonians 4:16). But John 5:28, 29 tells us: “all that are in the graves shall hear his [Christ's, not just any angel's] voice and shall come forth.” Both verses use the Greek word φωνη phone - once for the archangel's voice, once for the Son of Man's voice, following which the resurrection takes place. One voice, not two, is heard. Logically, then, we must conclude that there is one voice because there is one person.


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Answer 3

Well the identical manner that we've got a individual title and might love to be known as through our title rather of Man, Woman, Boy & so forth is the identical manner that God feels. Psalms eighty three:18 says "May men and women recognize that you just, whose title is Jehovah,You on my own are the Most High over the entire earth." The proven fact that his title is stated within the Bible suggests God desires his title to be recognized & when you consider that we're his witnesses or fans, we're known as Jehovah's Witnesses.

Answer 4

At times, an anti-Witness will repeatedly insist that "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus is Michael", as though that were the first (or twentieth) thought a typical Witness has about his Lord and Savior and King.

The bible teaches that Jesus Christ is referred to by other names, such as Immanuel, Sprout (or "Branch"), the Word, and others. Among those names is "Michael".


Perhaps the main cause for confusion is a misunderstanding of the bible term "archangel". An "archangel" is not the peer of mere angels. "Archangel" actually means "Chief of the Angels"; the fact remains that the bible itself speaks of only one single solitary archangel. The Scriptures never use the term "archangel" in the plural, but only in the singular.

Who is a better person than Jesus to be the single "Chief" of all faithful angels? Of whom can it be said that faithful angels belong to him, or are "his"?
2 Thes 1:7 Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels
Rev 12:7 Michael and his angels battled


The bible certainly teaches that the archangel Michael is the same person as Jesus.


Note that Jesus the Lord calls with an archangel's voice:
1 Thes 4:14-16 Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice


Do two different persons present themselves during a time of "distress" such as has "not occurred" before?

Dan 12:1 And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.

Matt 24:3-21 Disciples [asked Jesus] what will be the sign of your presence...?" And in answer Jesus said to them: "...All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now


Do two different persons both lead the heavenly armies?

Rev 19:13,14 [Jesus] is The Word of God. Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him

Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled


Once you study it, the bible really teaches that Michael is another name for Jesus. Though the term may confuse some, Jesus can properly be called an "archangel" or an "angel" (though not a mere angel) or a "son of God" or a "morning star" (though not a mere 'morning star'). Interestingly, the Scriptures refer to *ALL* angelic spirit creatures as "morning stars" (not just Jesus or Lucifer). Note that the archangel Jesus is uniquely elevated above mere angels by the title "the BRIGHT morning star".

Job 38:4,7 When [Jehovah] founded the earth... When the morning stars [or "angels"] joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause

Rev 22:16 I, Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT morning star. [caps added]

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19951101/article_02.htm

Answer 5

THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name “Who Is Like God?” But who is Michael?

At times, individuals are known by more than one name. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel, and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2; Matthew 10:2) Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth. Let's consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion.

God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” (Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and its angels.” Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven, one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus, it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.

Answer 6

Jesus existed in heaven before yes or no? yes according to John 17:5.

so if he was a son of God when God sent him according to John 3:16, then God sent a son to earth.

What is the name of that son in heaven, Jehovah? no cause according to Luke 1:32 Jesus is the son of the most high and the most high is Jehovah (psalms 83:18)

How many sons does God almighty have in heaven? millions according to Job 1:6, 2:1 and Job 38:4-7 all angels are called sons of God and also are called gods in Psalms 82:1-6.

So we can conclude that all angels are sons of God almighty ans are gods.

In every group there are always a first of that group, then should be a first among the sons of God, so he is the firstson of God, who says the bible is the firstson of God according to Colossians 1:15-17) is Jesus, Jesus is not firstson of God because he born from Mary, no, the firstson fo God in earth was Adam (Luke 3:38) he is the firstson cause is the first generated or created by God almighty directly from him with no intervention of anybody else, in the other hand the rest of the sons of God were generated throught the first one according to colossians 1:15-17.

How do we know Michael is the name of the firstson of God in heaven?
simple first he is the chief of the sons of God, why? cause he is the oldest and more powerful

in the book of Daniel mention the name of Michael as a powerful being and in chpater 12:1 call him "great prince" that will bring great tribulation and will rose people from dead.

Do you know someone else that will come in the future and will bring great tribulation and will rose people from dead?
Yes Jesus (the name given when born from Mary)

also the bible says that Jesus with a voice of Archangel will resurrected people from death (1 Thessal 4:16) Why he has a voice of Archangel? if he is not an The Archangel (There is only one) why to say that?

If I say that you are a man and have a voice of a woman, isn´t that and insult? If you are a man you should have avoice of a man. isn´t it?

the bible in Malachi 3:1-3 (In some version is changed) says that God will sent an angel (Messenger) of covenant, Who is that angel?
I can show you more in Revelation ; Joshua, Exodus; Judah, etc,that support that.

Answer 7

The name of this Micheal appears only five times in the Bible. The glorious spirit person who bears the name is referred to as " one of the chief princes," "the great prince who has charge of your(Daniel's people) and as "the archangel"(Daniel 10:13;12:1;Jude 9) Micheal means "Who is Like God?" The name evidently designates Micheal as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah's sovereignty and destroying God's enemies. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as "archangel's call" and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Micheal. Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus' commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority? Reasonably, then, the archangel Micheal is Jesus Christ.(Interestingly, the expression "archangel" is never found in the plural in the Scriptures, thus implying there is only one.)

Answer 8

Since Charles Russel was a split off from the seventh day adventists, he kept some 7th day adventist beliefs... Jesus being Michael the archangel... conditionalism/anhialation ... of course in the early days the Watchtower even had a cross on its cover..

but it doesnt make allot of sense to claim Jesus is Michael the archangel... they are both written about next to eachother in at least two places of the very few they appear...
If you look at the places in the Bible that talk about Michael the angel and Jesus, such as Jude, Revelation in the new testament... the Bible speaks of them both practically on the same page never claiming they are the same

I think the sourse of the confusion is that Thessalonians says at the return and rapture, the Lord will descend with the voice of the archangel and the trumpet of God... they say since he descends with the voice of the archang he must be the same... not so... there is also a trumpet sound... he aint no trumpet... Jesus will come with all the angels and his saints who died and they aint gunna be quiet about it.. there will be a whooping yell as the curtain of history is opened a bit and the creator steps in... as if he ever left...he;s just usually a bit more hidden as we live before the face of God

definitely look at Jude and see how Michael and Jesus are described... it is interesting that Jude said even the angel didnt rebuke Satan over a dispute about Moses, yet Jesus didnt mince no words and rebuked Satan... def not the same

Answer 9

ACCORDING to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by name. One is the angel Gabriel, who personally delivered messages from God to three different individuals over a period of some 600 years. (Daniel 9:20-22; Luke 1:8-19, 26-28) The other angel mentioned by name in the Bible is Michael.

Michael is clearly an outstanding angel. For example, in the book of Daniel, Michael is described as fighting wicked demons in behalf of Jehovah’s people. (Daniel 10:13; 12:1) In the inspired letter of Jude, Michael confronts Satan in a dispute over Moses’ body. (Jude 9) The book of Revelation shows that Michael wars with Satan and his demons and hurls them out of heaven. (Revelation 12:7-9) No other angel is portrayed as having such great power and authority over God’s enemies. It is no wonder, then, that the Bible appropriately refers to Michael as “the archangel,” the prefix “arch” meaning “chief,” or “principal.”

The Controversy Over Michael’s Identity

Christendom’s religions, as well as Judaism and Islam, have conflicting ideas on the subject of angels. Some explanations are vague. For instance, The Anchor Bible Dictionary states: “There may be a single superior angel and/or a small group of archangels (usually four or seven).” According to The Imperial Bible-Dictionary, Michael is the “name of a superhuman being, in regard to whom there have in general been two rival opinions, either that he is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, or that he is one of the so-called seven archangels.”

In Jewish tradition these seven archangels are Gabriel, Jeremiel, Michael, Raguel, Raphael, Sariel, and Uriel. On the other hand, Islam believes in four archangels, namely, Jibril, Mikal, Izrail, and Israfil. Catholicism also believes in four archangels: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel. What does the Bible say? Are there several archangels?

The Bible’s Answer

Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term “archangel” in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.

Aside from the Creator himself, only one faithful person is spoken of as having angels under subjection—namely, Jesus Christ. (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31) The apostle Paul made specific mention of “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) And Peter described the resurrected Jesus by saying: “He is at God’s right hand, for he went his way to heaven; and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.”—1 Peter 3:22.

While there is no statement in the Bible that categorically identifies Michael the archangel as Jesus, there is one scripture that links Jesus with the office of archangel. In his letter to the Thessalonians, the apostle Paul prophesied: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) In this scripture Jesus is described as having assumed his power as God’s Messianic King. Yet, he speaks with “an archangel’s voice.” Note, too, that he has the power to raise the dead.

While on earth as a human, Jesus performed several resurrections. In doing so, he used his voice to utter commanding calls. For example, when resurrecting the dead son of a widow in the city of Nain, he said: “Young man, I say to you, Get up!” (Luke 7:14, 15) Later, just before resurrecting his friend Lazarus, Jesus “cried out with a loud voice: ‘Lazarus, come on out!’” (John 11:43) But on these occasions, Jesus’ voice was the voice of a perfect man.

After his own resurrection, Jesus was raised to a “superior position” in heaven as a spirit creature. (Philippians 2:9) No longer a human, he has the voice of an archangel. So when God’s trumpet sounded the call for “those who are dead in union with Christ” to be raised to heaven, Jesus issued “a commanding call,” this time “with an archangel’s voice.” It is reasonable to conclude that only an archangel would call “with an archangel’s voice.”

Yes, there are other angelic creatures of high rank, such as seraphs and cherubs. (Genesis 3:24; Isaiah 6:2) Yet, the Scriptures point to the resurrected Jesus Christ as the chief of all angels—Michael the archangel.

Answer 10

That's what I was taught. I was never given the explanation for it, just was taught that the one God spoke to when saying "Let us create..." was Michael who he in Isaiah promised to send to earth as a human (Jesus.)