Currently at my job I must make copies of identification for application purposes. Where I work we dont "employ" these applicants we act as an employment agency for contractors. I see many obvious "fake" forms of identification, normally social security cards, and alien cards. What is my personal responsiblity when I see fake identification? What is the responsiblity of my employer to this problem? I feel my job would be jeopardized if I stood up and made an issue of this.
2007-07-09 05:41:37 · 22 answers · asked by Susanne W 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
I personally would NOT refuse employment based on my own assessment of the document's validity. This would open you up to a potential lawsuit in the case that you are wrong.
If you do suspect it to be falsified, you should report it to the authorities. Since this would appear to be mostly aliens (probably illegal, since they are allegedly using falsified documents) I would report it to DHS/ICE (Dept. of Homeland Security/Immigration and Customs Enforcement).
If your boss, or anyone at your company threatens you in ANY way for doing this, you then can have them prosecuted and also bring a civil lawsuit against them for wrongful termination.
I think you know what the right thing is here and the main concern is losing your job. I understand that, but can you live with yourself if you aid these people in what you believe to be fraud? Keep in mind that you can be prosecuted for this if it can be proven you knew about it, and if your company/boss is prosecuted, you may lose your job as a result, as well. The best bet here (and always) is doing what is right. Don't break a law.
2007-07-09 06:12:54 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
sad but true. I've seen it happen. Immigration in the US is a joke. Illegals have more rights than legal immigrants and visa holders. I lived in the US for 8 years, my whole family speak English fluently, I hold a PhD degree. However because my work visa could not be renewed and I couldn't find any loophole in the law, fake wife, or wanted to stay in the country illegally, I ended up having to leave the country my kids learned to love. We all felt at home up there (contrary to some who live in ghettos and only speak their native language) and respected the US law while the global scumbags that will probably get an amnesty in a near future will benefit from their law breaking strategies. They will find defenders who say "they work hard and pay taxes" so let me tell you all this: I did the same PLUS under the law and because of that people like me is being punished. This sucks! I'm now well adjusted back in my country but I know my kids wish they were still there. Maybe, who knows, they will go back someday but I'll make sure they take no passports, produce fake ID's and SSN's and don't forget to go in a makeshiftboat ride or cross a desert so they can be more successful.....
2016-04-01 05:12:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I would call one of those anonymous tip line and ask them what is your responsibility. I would suggest a lawyer, but that would cost you money. THe government can be funny sometimes and come after the wrong people. Unless their a lawyer, I wouldn't trust anything anyone says here to any great degree, even me. If you call the tip line, atleast you could use that to state you did the minimum.
I don't understand people who tolerate illegal immigrants. First it's not a big deal if they come here. They only breaking a minor law and are too scared to break anyother. They also pay taxes using TIN. When they steal our SSN., they say it's no big deal, they are only trying to find work. I always say that if we tolerate the violation of one law, we start tolerating more serious crimes.
2007-07-09 06:03:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Identity Theft is Rampant by illegals and terrorists! Be a Red Blooded American and do your duty and save an innocent person from grief! Don't loose Your job for being Honest! If Your Boss fires You, you can sue them for doing your civic duty! Being in Possession of someone else's social security number is a felony!
Go to Irs.gov, download form 3949A and report them for a Reward of 10%. You can also annonomously report it to US Postal Inspectors and the Social Secutity Administration and fraudnet.com They will keep it quiet and will do their jobs!
I wish someone was around like you when mine was stolen!
2007-07-09 06:51:48 · answer #4 · answered by ShadowCat 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
It's not your responsibility to determine if the ID is fake or real. If you mis-flag an ID as fake and it's real, the person could sue you for discrimination.
Just do your job, make the photo copies, and do whatever you are supposed to do with them.
Purrs,
The Cat Lady
2007-07-09 06:38:28 · answer #5 · answered by The_Cat_Lady 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
If the contractors you supply employees to can get into trouble for having illegals working for them what is the liability to your company.
Ask your supervisor for direction. If he/she does not take action you have the numbers to call. You can always call and report where/who they are working for after you leave the job.
JUST MAKE SURE NOTHING CAN COME BACK ON YOU!!
If you are the final person approving the application I'd be worried about aiding and abetting. Remember... CYA!!
2007-07-09 06:03:02 · answer #6 · answered by From Yours Trully 4 · 5⤊ 2⤋
As an owner of a commercial and residential building company, if your firm sent my company a worker that was not completely legit I would sue the pants off your firm. You are being paid for a service to save that builder time not to expose them to a lawsuit.
I understand that many companies out there are specifically looking for illegal immigrants but some of us are strictly law abiding employers and your company, if it engages in covering up fraud, is liable for those construction companies who get tagged by law enforcement. The middle man takes the fall.... I would report it to my supervisor, AND I would keep notes to clear myself of any future legal action.
2007-07-09 05:57:32 · answer #7 · answered by Rabid Frog 4 · 5⤊ 3⤋
If it is obvious that the document is fake, you should deny employment. That is the legal thing to do. Talk to your supervisor and see what his response is. If they don't agree, I would consider not working there anymore.
2007-07-09 05:47:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 2⤋
Tell your employer that you have information that under current laws he is in violation of fraud? an what does he want you to do.If he says over look it. You need to find out if your nonage are you liable if ICE raids your employer an your the 1 that put this together,Better find out??As it's going to happen. CYOA
2007-07-09 05:54:29 · answer #9 · answered by 45 auto 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You should tell your superior and let them handle it. If you dun tell, you might get into trouble with the law (for being a suspected accomplice) so it's not worth the trouble either way.
2007-07-09 05:50:30 · answer #10 · answered by floozy_niki 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋