De-Evolvers: so all mutations are bad?

Question

Scientists agree that almost all mutations are bad, but from time to time there are beneficial mutations.

Ever played the lottery?

Most tickets are duds. Some win you another ticket or a bit of cash, only one ticket wins the jackpot (and rarely there are twins).

Same concept applies to mutations. Most are duds. Some give you a small benefit, and every so often, a mutation comes along that is so superior it eventually replaces all the others.

If evolution was bunk, there wouldn't be any mutations at all. The fact you admit some occur demonstrates the reality of evolution.

What say you?

Answer 1

I don't doubt that evolution is an interesting THEORY. However, I find it hard to believe that everything in this world is a result of incredibly remote random chances. Here's what I see as the biggest holes in evolution:

- Science cannot find a way to start life from non-living materials. If life cannot be started, then there's nothing to evolve. The closest anyone came was the Miller experiment where he managed to create amino acids, but, according to scientists, the environment was nothing like earth's environment at any point in it's history, and attempts to use an environment like earth's environment have failed.

- Creating life from just basic building blocks (mainly amino acids) is a very complex procedure. The chances of it happening randomly are approximately 1 in 10^60, too low to be even remotely considered.

- The fossil record shows a sudden appearance of all plants and animals at once, not progressively developing over time.

- Irreducibly complex structures couldn't be a result of evolution, they had to come into existence all at once. Even if they're the result of mutations, that's a lot of mutations that have to go exactly right for life to develop.

So, as far as I can see, those big questions right there have to be answered before you can really look at evolution as truth. It's a THEORY, and nothing more.

Answer 2

This is a strawman, since there are creationists who do believe that mutations occur (go to answersingenesis.org and search for "beneficial mutation" if you don't believe me). The real question is can they account for particles-to-people evolution.

"If evolution was bunk, there wouldn't be any mutations at all. The fact you admit some occur demonstrates the reality of evolution."
If by "evolution" you mean "changes in features over time", agreed. However, this does not demonstrate that "evolution" (if one instead means "the history of all life on earth through a common ancestor [or a few common ancestors]) is also true.

Answer 3

Comparing random mutations with the lottery renders your entire "position" moot. For two things to be successfully and rationally compared, they must have certain properties in common, otherwise the comparison is useless.
Further, my admitting that mutations occur deomonstrates nothing other than I realize they happen. I admit that some people think UFO's are real; this in no way "demonstrates" that I concur with their delusion.

Answer 4

well i think youre right on the money. i think that all mutations are forment until a moment of selection arises. meaning that small mutations, that do not impare the basic function of the body, lay dorment, until they become a hassle, and get inthe way of a species surviving in a changing environment.

turtles vary with short and long necks, a mutation occurs adn a turtle with a shorter neck is born. does this matter? no cus the grass is abundant and high, and this shorter turtles goes and propriate. Then 20 years later, there is a sever drought. suddenly the offspring of this shortnecked turtle have great dificulty finding food and die out.

dont you think?

Answer 5

Very good. Thats so true, people usually think we look this way right now, and then 4 million years later we will look completely different. When in reality evolution is constantly happening, the best way for us (humans) to notice it I think is in the animal kingdom. Since a lot of humans don't want to believe that we evolved from animals. It's clear to see in animals like the platypus and the zorse.

Answer 6

I like the thought....except that my 6/49 dud was never a lethal dud....well, not yet anyway.

Answer 7

Actually, all sorts of breeding programs we have done (Hailed as evolution evidence) show gene info is decreasing, not increasing.
And Just becasue eviolution is (Most likely) true does nto mean creationism is.

Answer 8

They wont understand, they have some sort of mental block against this issue.

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Steve N
Wrong!! evolution is driven by natural selection, mutations and sexual selection.

Answer 9

That is a superb point. If evolution is BS, according to Christians, then why is there evolutionary mutations?

Answer 10

Evolution is not driven by mutation. get your facts straight.

Evolution is about the survival of the ofspring of two successful parents and nothing more.