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heres the scenario-> i was gonna make a left at an intersection, the girl in front of me went, i went, and someone decided to make a right just before we made a left. after making a left, some huge truck was getting out of a parking lot so, it made me stop in the middle of the crosswalk where at that point the light turned green for the opposite traffic and i was blocking a bus.

but my dilemma is that the if the guy from the opposite traffic didnt make a right just before i made a left, i would have had enough room to NOT block the bus,

STILL, the cop gave me a ticket.

do u guys think i'll have a chance of getting my ticket dismissed if i plead my case? i live in california and if anybody knows, it was in the city of Glendale.

i also have a history of tickets like speeding and failure to stop at a stop sigh.

PLEASE, please people, give the best advise of what to do to get out of it, i really really dont think i was at fault

2007-07-08 21:21:09 · 10 answers · asked by sirun 2 in Politics & Government Law Enforcement & Police

i had a green arrow, the guy who made a right had a red light,

2007-07-08 23:09:34 · update #1

10 answers

I know this is not what you want to hear but regardless of what you think, you are at fault & here is why:
The guy who made the right just before your left HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY, not you. When making a left turn you are required to yield the right of way to all on coming traffic until safe to make your turn. It was not safe for you to turn because you did not wait for the guy to clear the intersection sufficiently for you to clear the intersection.
Heck if that isn't enough, in CA you cannot legally enter an intersection until you have sufficent room to clear the intersection [gridlock law].
That said, you may still have a defense depending on what code section he wrote charged. Look up that section & see if it applies to this situation. If after reading the section, it fits what you did then you will likely be found guilty. If it does not fit, then you have a defense. Present the defense to the judge.

THANKS for the clarification on the green light. That changes things a lot. I am still wondering just what did the cop cite you for, what was the citation section. There is still the possibility of gridlock [22526VC] though you would have a fair defense since when you started your turn there was sufficient clearance. The truck exiting the parking lot violated your right of way and that prevented you from safely making it through the intersection.

2007-07-08 21:46:02 · answer #1 · answered by XPig 3 · 4 0

I am trying to picture this scenario with the information provided and will give it a shot.
If you were making a left turn through the intersection on a green light (not arrow) and the guy in the oncoming traffic lane made a right turn in your path causing you to be delayed and blocking the intersection then based on this I would have to say you would be at fault and here is why. When making a left turn on a green light you are obligated to yield the right of way to all traffic that is oncoming that also has a green light. If the guy made a right turn on a green than by law you would normally have to yield or wait for him to complete his turn and you can only go through intersection when it is safe and free of traffic. Simply put your failing to yield resulted in your not being able to safely navigate through the intersection resulting in the blockage. Now if the guy made the right on a red light and you have say a green arrow that would change things as he would have to now yield to you but I don't feel this is the case.
There is some extenuating factors here (truck coming from the parking lot) and you can try to explain them to a Judge but if you have a bad record he may not be sympathetic about it.
I wish you the best with this and please drive carefully!

2007-07-08 21:36:58 · answer #2 · answered by flafuncop 2 · 1 0

I agree with snobalz second answer. From your description you had the right of way and a clear path to exit the intersection when you made your turn. But it may be important what law you are alleged to have violated. For example, it could be that the citing officer believes that you entered the intersection after the green arrow had turned red. But if it is a violation of VC 22526, I think I would go to court and contest it. I would suggest you have photos made of the intersection, showing where you were, that there is a green arrow control there, and showing the driveway from which the truck appeared and blocked your path. Be prepared to testify that when you BEGAN your turn the path was clear, which may not have been visible to the citing officer who only saw you blocking the intersection.

BTW, there is no deferred adjudication proceedure for traffic violations in California such as referenced by jeremy b.

2007-07-11 09:34:20 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I hate to say this but I think you are going to have to pay this ticket. You are suppose to make sure you have the right of way at all times. Just because the girl in-front of you went didn't make it OK for you to go. But on the other hand fighting it is always the way to go. The ticket won't get any worse just because you fought it and if the officer doesn't appear in court you have a fairly good chance of convincing the judge it wasn't your fault. So fight it and Good Luck.

2007-07-08 21:27:37 · answer #4 · answered by oldhag 5 · 1 0

how old are you? if you are over 18 then you can go to the court and get a packet thing that you fill out to try to get it dismissed. ifyou do it in writing and get someone to back you up (like if someone was in the car?) then it looks really good and if the cop that gave the ticket doesnt respond then you are homefree.
try doing that...or if you want to do it in person try to reschedule your court date at least once so that the cop wont show up...that way its just ur word to go on.
i think in this case you have a pretty good chance. the person who turned right didnt have the right ofway and neither did the big truck. so its not ur fault.
good luck.

2007-07-08 21:26:42 · answer #5 · answered by Kim N 2 · 0 0

Difer it to judification and control yourself. If you dont get a ticket during the probation period your out of it. Difering it does cost but not as much as the ticket. If you do pay the ticket atleast its not a moving violation. Insurance wont know about it.

2007-07-08 21:33:34 · answer #6 · answered by HUNGLIKEA2YROLD 2 · 0 1

element out which you have parked there previously, without warning or value ticket, and since the hot no parking sign is small and not prominently located, you weren't attentive to the replace. it could help to incorporate photos of the placement you parked, and the placement of the sign, so as that the appeals branch can see which you quite parked there out of lack of understanding to the replaced policies, and not intentionally ignoring them.

2016-12-10 06:24:02 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Creeping forward does not give you the right to make a turn. If you are in the wrong location when the light changes.........well, you know what happens. Next time, wait until you can make a proper turn. Don't worry about what everyone else is doing.

2007-07-09 06:06:41 · answer #8 · answered by CGIV76 7 · 1 4

You may need to water your lawn.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6282348.stm

2007-07-08 21:35:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

STOP BREAKIN THE LAW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2007-07-08 21:23:59 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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