Where in the Bible...?

Question

...can I find the expressions "God the Son" and "God the holy spirit"? And where does it specifically say they are equal to God the Father?

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Answer 1

You will not find either expression anywhere in any Bible, and in many translations John 1:1 is mis-interpreted, so that one doesn't work. The Bible teaches that there is one true God, Jehovah. He directly created his Son, Jesus, and the holy spirit is God's active force, sometimes called the "spirit of truth". Without God's holy spirit one cannot gain accurate knowledge.

(1 Corinthians 11:3) “3 But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God. . .”

Jesus said himself...(John 14:28) “. . .the Father is greater than I am.”

(John 17:3) “. . .This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”

In the above verse Jesus clearly shows that there is one true God, and then adds the word "AND" showing that he is NOT the true God, and yet, he was sent forth by God, because he had been in heaven with God, before he came to earth as a human. Notice also in this verse that nowhere does it mention the holy spirit...if people will use their sense of reason they csn easily discern the truth...heartfelt prayer will help one gain holy spirit, so that they can gain accurate knowledge, if they truly want to learn.

Answer 2

What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?"

Answer: The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.

Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word "Trinity" is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are 3 coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting 3 Gods. The Trinity is 1 God made up of 3 persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term "Trinity" even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word "Trinity" than to say "3 coexistent, co-eternal persons making up 1 God." If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. So don't get hung up on the term "Trinity" itself. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is REPRESENTED by the word "Trinity" does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.

1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The "LORD" has a "Son" (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the "LORD" (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, John 14:16-17 is where Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity - the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16 (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).

5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship, and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.

6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); 2) divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: 1) creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); 2) divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); 3) salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and 4) Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

None of the popular illustrations are completely accurate descriptions of the Trinity. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not parts of God, each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better but still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration. Instead of focusing on the Trinity, try to focus on the fact of God's greatness and infinitely higher nature than our own. "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?" (Romans 11:33-34)

Answer 3

Those specific expressions are not there. Mention of Jesus being the Son of God, God being our Father and the Holy Spirit are all mentioned. The concept of the Holy Trinity or Godhead came later and is a mystery even now.

Answer 4

Line: Try the Book of John, chapter 14, verse 9 (New Testament) and give the Book of Isaiah, chapter 9, verse 6 re: " everlasting Father", a try (Old Testament). The Holy Spirit has the role as the "creating" part of the deity, and Christ is the "word" or "Spokesman" [Greek: "Logos"]. You can try also, Book of John, chapter 1, verses 1 - 3, for further insight. Hope this all, supplies you with some direction - good reading !!!

P.S. Read the Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verse 26 re: emphasis on "Us" ... " let US make man in OUR image". This tells us that God is a trinity - made up at least of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit since, all play a significant role in the initial creation.

Answer 5

it cannot be found in the bible. "Son of God" i can give you many as well as "Spirit of God"; but "God the Son", "God the Holy Spirit"? nada! Are you referring to Trinity?
When you say they are equal to the God Father... then the God Father lies!?
read: "To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?" -Isa. 46:5.
But God does not lie. Does He?

i am sorry i have to add this:
Godhead is not a mystery.
read: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" -Rom. 1:20

Answer 6

John 4:24..God is spirit. John 10:30 Jesus speaking "The Father and I are one. John 14:9 Jesus speaking "...he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father." Mat.1:18 speaking of Mary the mother of Jesus. ".....she was found with child of the Holy Ghost." John 21:22 He (Jesus) breathed on them (disciples) and said "Receive ye the Holy Ghost." 1st. John 4:13 &14. (13) ... becasue He (Juses) hath given us His Spirit. (14) ....The Father sent the Son . Here you can see that all three are noted. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Answer 7

God Bless you for your question...

I don't believe that you will find those exact expressions. However, the idea of the Trinity is firmly expressed throughout the Bible. Here is how I have explained it before...


I understand your confusion. The idea of the Trinity is one of the harder ones for the human mind to wrap itself around. No analogy is sufficient to explain it adequately, and it is just one of those mysteries that we poor finite minds will have to wait until we stand in His awesome glory to figure out completely. Let me just say this regarding the Trinity--there is only ONE God, He is represented in THREE persons, and those persons have distinct roles. God--the Father, is the One who plans and controls time and destiny. He is the thinker. Jesus Christ--the Son, is the actor of the Father's plans. He was the active agent in the creation, He came to earth and died for our sins. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. The Holy Spirit--the counselor, guides and instructs our heart, was the assisting agent in the creation, and lives within every believer.

They are all God. They individually are completely God, separate entities but wholly God. And God is one. There are NOT three Gods. There is only ONE God, existing in three forms.

I know this is confusing, and hard to understand, but the Scriptures clearly show this to be true. You will not find a specific quote stating "trinity". But by looking at the Bible as a whole, this is a very easy thing to see.

Answer 8

Thats a good question. Notice how no one has answered it yet! The Trinity is a false teaching! Read Matthew 24:36.
No one knows the exact date but the Father, if all three are the same, shouldn't they all know??

Answer 9

No where. Just like the word "TRINITY" is NOT in the Bible at all. Not once. On the other hand I do know about 12 scriptures that prove the Trinity a FALSE doctrine.

Answer 10

Matthew 28:19 and John 8:58-59. Any version will do.