That of course depends on your view and how you accept the words in the Bible. Likewise it depends on how you view Jesus and his position in the overall perfect plan of God, the great, "I AM".
As a "NO" that verse gave me many problems also when in the past I was trying to put things together in a smooth simple pattern in my studues. I believed that Jesus told only the truth but all who I heard teaching was saying that Jesus and God are equal.
I just continued my studies and searched the scriptures more and more seeking the truth, In my opinion now I have a perfect answer that does put everything into a complete picture and it is centered around the 4th word in the Bible on the word Elohim in Genesis 1:1 that is translated as the word "God" in most English translated Bibles. I now see it would have been clearer if it was left as the word Elohim in my view.
That word now to me says Jesus is created by God and made a god by God [note small g and big G]. This view not only satisfies the words you stated in John 14:28 but also many other words like many gods in the Psalms, Jesus subjected himself to the father, Jesus has a God and a Father, etc.
Of xcourse I do have much opposition to my view, but I have not found one to convince me I am wrong by the scriptures.
Do have a good day, keep searching, and let the Bible say what it does say and do not let man convince you of something that is not correct THe motive of Jesus was to be a light but I am not sure of the motive of all the teachers and preachers that are in the business to make others like themselves. I personally chose to listen to Jesus my friend and I sure hope you do also. I truly believe he is the truth, the way, and the life.
2007-07-08 23:06:47
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answered by cjkeysjr 6
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As a man, Jesus emptied Himself of His divine prerogatives. This is described in detail in Philippians chapter 2:5-11
He went so far as to say "I of my own self can do nothing" (John 5:30)
However in John chapter 17 He prays before His passion and ascension that the Father would restore "the glory which I had with You before the world existed." (verse 5)
This the Father did when he raised Jesus from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenlies.
The Scripture says He was made a little lower than the angels (or perhaps more accurately He was made for a little while lower than the angels)
That time has passed, and after his resurrection he declares that "all authority in heaven and in earth has been given unto Me" (Matthew 28:18)
2007-07-08 14:57:28
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answered by wefmeister 7
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awesome question. in the start, i assumed you have have been given written the scripture incorrect, yet after examining i became like...oh lol. in this article, this is pertaining to Jesus whilst he became a guy on earth, because of the fact we of course understand that angels are a rather good existence form than that of people.we are created from flesh and bones, and angel are spirit creatures. Jesus descended from heaven to the womb of the virgin infant as a defenseless infant growing to be up right into a grown able guy, ideal, yet inspite of the actuality that human. As a human, growing to be as an toddler into guy, made him much less or inferior than angels and of direction his Heavenly Father (John 14:28) You my buddy are reasoning in a fashion that shows the trinity to be a lie and anti-biblical. and you're surely genuine. The almighty God isn't able to being under the almighty and situation to every physique. He could no longer have been made right into somewhat infant. It purely isn't some thing which would be needed for the outgoing of his will.
2016-10-01 04:22:48
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answered by Anonymous
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To fully understand that quote, I'd need to know what the full range of meanings was for the Greek word in the original text. If it can mean something like "more powerful", that would make general theological sense, because Jesus can be seen as God "in the mode of dependency". Also, as I recall, John regards Jesus as entering into glory at the time of his execution. This could explain why (before Good Friday), he was not yet exalted in the same way as the Father.
Don't worry too much about stuff like this, however. The gospels don't give a clear indication whether Jesus even realized that he was God. The main thing is that God showed he was, and the disciples discovered he was, through the Resurrection.
2007-07-08 14:54:48
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answered by obro 3
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Hehe, arthurlikesbeer stole my comments from another question similar to this one! The four clear- cut reasons why Jesus and God cannot be the same person are the result of my own research! But hey- if it helps people to understand that the trinity is a false doctrine, then I say copy and paste all you want to! Cheers! =)
2007-07-08 15:47:49
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answered by Anonymous
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that is just one passage that proves the trinity theroy wrong there are many its sounds pretty crazy for god to make a second alias ,and why through him in there at all
if jesus and god are the same person that means he commited suicide cus he sent his self to be killed
can god have a conversation with jesus or would he be talkin to his self?and if so is he sicsofranic
why dose jesus refer to god as his father and not his other personality?
if you have any thought process at all you could so the flaws in the trinity doctrin
1. God CANNOT die. Jesus died. Therefore, Jesus is NOT God.
2. God knows EVERYTHING. Jesus admits he doesn't know everything, only the Father (Matthew 24:36) Therefore, Jesus is NOT God.
3. God is not subject to anyone. The bible says that Jesus is subject to the Father (1 Corinthians 7:3). Therefore, Jesus is NOT God.
4. God was NOT created. Jesus was created (Colossians 1:15, Proverbs 8:22-31). Therefore, Jesus is NOT God.
These four things are undeniable, straightforward, and sound evidence that Jesus is NOT God. To try to create a "workaround" is to deny the truth.
2007-07-08 15:05:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes. Jesus taught his disciples to pray: “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.” Our heavenly Father, whose name is Jehovah, is described in the Bible as being superior to his Son. For example, Jehovah is “from everlasting to everlasting.” But the Bible says that Jesus is “the firstborn of every creature.” That Jehovah is greater than Jesus, Jesus himself taught when he said: “My Father is greater than I.” (Matthew 6:9; Psalm 90:1, 2; Colossians 1:15; John 14:28, King James Version) Yet, the Trinity doctrine holds that the Father and the Son are “equally God.”
The Father’s superiority over the Son, as well as the fact that the Father is a separate person, is highlighted also in the prayers of Jesus, such as the one before his execution: “Father, if you wish, remove this cup [that is, an ignominious death] from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If God and Jesus are “one in essence,” as the Trinity doctrine says, how could Jesus’ will, or wish, seem different from that of his Father?—Hebrews 5:7, 8; 9:24.
Furthermore, if Jehovah and Jesus were the same, how could one of them be aware of things of which the other was not? Jesus, for instance, said regarding the time of the world’s judgment: “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.”—Mark 13:32.
I have noticed that people who believe that Jesus is God have no explanation for John 14:28. To them, that verse does not exist.
2007-07-08 14:46:16
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answered by LineDancer 7
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When Jesus came to earth and became a man, he divested himself of his full divinity.
Please see Phillippians 2: 5-11. Notice though, that now that he is seated at God's right hand, since the ascension, he now has been given "a name above every other name". He is back in the cloak of full divinity and power.
Hebrews is a wonderful book that explains exactly what his role is, since his return to heaven. He is now our High Priest, Mediator, etc.
2007-07-08 14:55:55
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answered by Simon Peter 5
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Matt. 26:39, RS: “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’” (If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will.)
John 8:17, 18, RS: “[Jesus answered the Jewish Pharisees:] In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.” (So, Jesus definitely spoke of himself as being an individual separate and distinct from the Father.)
Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)
John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”
1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)
1 Cor. 15:27, 28 RS: “‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”
2007-07-08 15:00:26
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answered by ? 2
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Jesus is a son of God not God almighty he is a god cause all the sons of God almighty (angels) are gods according to Job 1:6 and 2:1 and Psalms 82:1-6.
Job 1:6 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them"
notice how it says "sons" also in Job 38:4-7
by the way if something sounds weird, probably is because it is.
Jesus is not a cookie God neither God is one and he never said the bible he will divide in three and 1/3 will come to earth, he said that he will sent a servant (isaiah 42:1) or a son (John 3:16).
2007-07-08 14:50:17
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answered by Anonymous
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