"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."
— Gene Roddenberry, (1921-1991)
2007-07-08 09:44:20 · 18 answers · asked by HawaiianBrian 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I love star trek and I love this quote. I think it sums up a lot of what I believe. To me a God who would create humans must be creative an therefore would accept their mistakes. I paint and sometimes my mistakes are the most beautiful part of the picture.
2007-07-08 09:49:37 · answer #1 · answered by alana 5 · 3⤊ 2⤋
I love Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry was a cultural visionary, but he was flawed, as is this thought process.
Care to share exactly where you came up with this quote?
God did not create faulty humans. He created them perfect, with the capacity to choose between Him and themselves. They chose themselves.
2007-07-10 06:41:29 · answer #2 · answered by Tim H 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I like most of Trek. (Voyager and Enterprise were both fairly weak.). I'm not particularly religious myself but even I found some of Rodenberry's reasoning flawed. In my opinion the best slice of Star Trek was Deep Space 9 which was mostly free of Rodeberry's influence. That particular show contained some very neat explorations on the nature of religion and belief.
2007-07-08 10:00:57 · answer #3 · answered by James Melton 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He sounds like many people on here. He misses that the logis isn't in creating faulty humans and then blaming them for his mistakes ( you would think a writer would get this) But in craeting creatures with free will and then allowing them to dela with the consequences of that free will.
2007-07-08 10:04:18 · answer #4 · answered by David F 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
In view of that, why did Roddenbery, as Producer, allow the story of the the Son Worshipers and Romans.
Remember Uhura's line at the end "The Son of God"
2007-07-08 10:04:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Disagree because Roddenberry makes assumptions that are not necessarily true and neither those assumptions or alternative assumptions can be proven outside of relying on authority (scripture).
An alternative set of assumptions gives much more weight to free-will, which I contend is not a fault but a powerful blessing that has been misused. (That was the risk God took for the sake of love.)
As soon as free-will is entered into the equation the definition of an all-powerful, all-knowing God changes.
God is all-powerful in that he will eventually make things come out according to his will (the macro story) but in the individual instances our free-will can resist God's will (the micro story).
God is all-knowing about what has happened but because of free-will he is not all knowing in what an individual, or group of individuals will choose to do.
2007-07-08 09:55:13 · answer #6 · answered by lastdazeman 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Another of my favorite quotes comes from "The Next Generation:" Jean-Luc Picard says, "There is no justice when laws are absolute." Gene Roddenberry believed in the intellect and he showed it in his great work. I think he would have believed that "There is no justice when RELIGIOUS BELIEF is absolute." Fortunately, he didn't live to see the terrorist world we live in today, caused by religious fanatics.
2007-07-08 09:52:41 · answer #7 · answered by Elaine P...is for Poetry 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Love Star Trek, and Gene always have very interesting things to say about god and religion.
Live long and prosper
2007-07-08 09:49:35 · answer #8 · answered by atheist 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Hmmm, I always liked that episode in which Uhura is the first to realize that the Roman-like culture was not sun worshippers, but Son of God worshippers.
2007-07-08 10:01:43 · answer #9 · answered by ignoramus_the_great 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I love Star Trek - especially Voyager and TNG.
Gene is a great Hollywood producer, but not a person I would go to for spiritual guidance.
2007-07-08 09:59:42 · answer #10 · answered by Richard of Fort Bend 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋