Why would Jews be angry about Catholics having Mass in Latin?

Question

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2121325,00.html

Most religions and religious people have a few things in common. They believe they have a ticket to Heaven and are on the road to enlightenment. Most religions and religious people want to share their ticket with you. This is why I make it a point never to be rude to Jehovah’s Witnesses or other religious groups that knock on my door or otherwise attempt to convert me. I don’t agree with their point of view, but I recognize that from their point of view, they are trying to do something wonderful for me. They just want me to go to heave with them. I have never thought of them as being against me.

Now the Catholic Church is no different from most other religions. They think theirs is the correct way to worship God and get into heaven. During their mass they have a prayer that Jewish people come to realize that they do in fact have the ticket to heaven, and they will come and share it with them. I don’t understand how that is anti Jewish. I would think it would be anti Jewish to pray that they stay as they are and burn in hell for ever.

Answer 1

I had no clue Jews were angry over Latin mass? Latin is the language that was spoken for centuries (and still is in some places) to conduct Mass. As a kid I had to endure two whole hours of Latin mass on an empty stomach..(we could not take communion unless we had fasted)...ugh...horrible!

Answer 2

It's not that it's in Latin, it's that it "removed restrictions on celebrating an old form of the Latin mass which includes prayers calling for the Jews to 'be delivered from their darkness' and converted to Catholicism."

Pope John Paul II (may he rest in peace) was a good friend to the Jewish community and many other communities because of his respect for other cultures and religions--including his support in the Jewish community against this type of mass because it preaches our specific "deliverance from darkness." We thought that with JPII, the Catholic fight to convert Jews had ended, and we really appreciated that. Now, it might start up again, and obviously, that doesn't make us happy.

Short version: Jews and Catholics get along well. Removing restrictions on this mass makes the relationship go sour.

Answer 3

Us Jews would never be angry over catholics having mass in Latin. Jews have their services is Hebrew and some English. also Jews believe everyone has a ticket into heaven we think all who are good and lead a good life can share in the world to come with us. you made very good points so more power to catholics having mass in Latin..i think that is great

Answer 4

Thankfully, not all Jews are angry. One blogger writes, "it's problematic to demand that Catholics avoid praying that we Jews will be enlightened and convert when 'aleinu' isn't exactly a charitable prayer that the idolater's eyes might be opened to the truth of monotheism" and "we Jews have no dog in this fight and should just butt out of something that really has nothing to do with us."
http://bogieworks.blogs.com/treppenwitz/2007/07/whatever-just-d.html

Answer 5

Latin is not the problem. The article states that the prayers are "calling for the Jews to 'be delivered from their darkness' and converted to Catholicism."
Wouldn't you be annoyed if, say, Jews prayed, asking you to abandon Islam?????

Answer 6

It's not over having Mass in a dead language but becuse the Pre Vat II Good Friday and other prayers had antiSemitic wordings(among other things calling Jews"perfidious") and other less than civil attitudes revealed

Answer 7

I don't find praying for a conversion of Jews to be Anti-Semetic at all, some Christians including myself do believe it is Unchristian to not help Jews have a chance to know about Christ.

Afterall the Jews are God's chosen people and we don't want any of God's chosen to be eternally condemned for rejecting the promised Jewish Messiah himself which is Jesus Christ.

Not to mention a lot of people sadly have no idea that it is ok for a Jewish convert to the Christian faith to maintain many Jewish traditions.

Apostle Paul who was born Jewish himself pointed out errors that were being made on the issue of how one becomes a Christian. some people thought you had to become a Jew to become a Christian, others thought one had to give up Jewish traditions to become a Christian.

Apostle Paul was like "no no no, a Gentile does not have to become a Jew to become a Christian, a Gentile convert should not be expected to partake of Jewish traditions to become a Christian, but also a Jewish convert does not have to give up a lot of the Jewish traditions either."

Descendants of Mary and Joseph (Nieces and Nephews of Jesus Christ) were leaders in the form of Christianity that you could call Judaic Christianity but a lot of them got killed off once Anti-Semetic heresies started to plague the Catholic Church itself (especially when the Catholic Church started drifting away from what Christianity really stands for and descendants of Mary and Joseph were being killed for trying to keep Christianity the way their Uncle Jesus had intended it).

I have to say praying for Jews to convert is much nicer than calling for their death like Hitler had done (the Catholic Church excommunicated Hitler in 1976, 31 years after he died).

Answer 8

I think it was this part:
"an old form of the Latin mass which includes prayers calling for the Jews to 'be delivered from their darkness' and converted to Catholicism."

Technically, under the new rules that should not be there.

Answer 9

it has something to do about conversion of the jews...

The tridentine rite (mass) contains a prayer on good friday of easter week calling for the conversion of jews.

Here's the funny part: Most of the world's 1 billion roman catholics are unfamiliar to latin !!!

so............. the pope wants the mass to be said in a language that most of the believers won't understand !!!

lmao @ the pope and the 1 billion r catholics !!! lmao !!!

Answer 10

A red dvd player, why?