Is there ever a time, state or level of being, etc when karma does not or no longer applies?

Question

If there is a creator of the universe, is he/she/it subject to karma? Is karma part of the creator?

Answer 1

There is a Creator!
The Creator has no karma!

Man on the other hand can burn all accumulated karma.
And this being will thus be a Self Realized (Or True)
Human Being. Otherwise known in my tradition as an "Insan Kamil".
Now its homework time.

"May the wind be always at your back."

Answer 2

I would imagine that when we have learned all needed lessons we would no longer do things which would cause bad karma.
Jesus taught reincarnation. It's not all there, because of those who raped the Bible, but the missed some loose ends that clearly point to that being a christian belief.
As God is perfect and all-knowing, what could He do to deserve or need karma?

Blessed Be

Answer 3

Because we are embedded in a multi-dimensional field responsive to consciousness - some call it God, some reality - all you have to do is open your eyes and feel your feelings to understand your karma. Reality mirrors the contents of mind - even conundrums from previous incarnations. Finding your 'purpose' will be a bit more challenging.

However, since self-knowledge and achieving 'full aliveness' makes the past irrelevant, and its on-offer in every lifetime, just choose one of three paths - Being, Transcendence or Bliss - get started and don't worry about karma.

Answer 4

What Michelle said ... in other words ...

Intentions and actions not distorted by greed, hate, or ignorance do not have karmic results.

That's a Buddhist understanding, and much of Buddhism is basically agnostic on the question of a Creator.

I'm less acquainted with Hindu perspectives, but I'd have to think the active Creating- Sustaining- Transforming forces of the Divine as understood in that spiritual language are free of karmic productions, too.
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Answer 5

The idea is that we're all one. Enlightenment is the way out of karma, as karma itself is an illusion. It kind of seems like you're trying to combine Hinduism/Buddhism/etc. with Christianity/Islam/etc. Not exactly a good idea...

If you are trying to discover your Buddha nature, pondering the question of what being, if any, created us, as well as whether it has karma or not will only keep you caught up in attachments.

Answer 6

Karma is merely the 'law of cause and effect'. You are your own creator. Co-creator that uses energy (God) to manifest. God = 'energy of life. Thoughts are manifested by energy. Energy does not care. Like silly putty does not care. The only ultimate consequence is whatever you think it is. Energy will create whatever you think and feel about. Just like silly putty. Put out a certain vibration - for certain energy vibrates- and you will attract the same vibration back - law of cause and effect.

Answer 7

yes, there is a time.....

when an individual fully Enlightens (it happens in stages)
they are able to exist fully present, no longer at the effect of their actions of the past. There is no longer a need to account to themselves for self judgment, and so no longer a need to return in future lifetimes to "get it right". All is allowed, accepted just as it stands, right now.

Buddhists do not believe there is a "God" in the heavens judging or keeping score on anyone - karma is man made, and so must be un-made as man, which then allows spirit to express itself freely -unbound to this earthly plane.

When you are free of self judgment, you are no longer at the effect of karma. Only you can grant that state to yourself.

Answer 8

Christians dont call it karma we call it reaping what you've sown or what goes around comes around. and you will ALWAYS reap what you've own whether good or bad. maybe not tomorrow but it WILL happen. God is not subject to what you call karma. it is the creation that faces what they have done not the creator.

Answer 9

It seems to me that religions that accept karma consider karma to be the deified force, force of nature, laws of the world upon which things operate. Generally, Taoism and Buddhism do not really have specific creator gods and also tend to be more in tune with the concept of karma.

This question is probably one that folks with gods in their religions do not want asked: "Who watches the watchmen?" The unfortunate answer for most religions is nobody. Nobody holds the Christian, Jewish, or Muslim God accountable for his behavior. In a polytheistic religion it is possible that the gods help keep each other in check or balance, but there is a tendency for a head god, which is again accountable to no one except perhaps a full-scale opposition of the other gods - and sometimes that isn't even effective.

Karma, of course, presumes that there is a natural law to the universe and not that such a law is unilaterally and sometimes arbitrarily enforced by a personified entity. Taoism in particular seems to me to completely de-personify this concept concept of life balances and karmic forces.

In science, there is the law of equilibrium that helps answer your question. Going with Taoism, because movement towards equilibrium is not instantaneous, there would times when karma, as a force that constantly move towards equilibrium in its own way, would appear to not be in effect because the scope may be beyond human temporal perception, such as feedback that happens over decades or even centuries. This might help, however, to explain cycles one finds in history, such as cycles of empire and revolution and corruption and societal redeption (or destruction).

Karma also serves as an answer to the philosophical trap of "Divine Command Theory" in which God is accused of being a fascist tyrant that is responsible to no one and that reduces the meaning of Good and Evil down to the simple rule "might makes right." In this use, karma is the greater force explaining Good and Evil and God is somewhat reduced in power in order to explain that God's rules do not *create* Good and Evil, but explain how to avoid natural patterns that would lead to harm or destruction. This explanation allows God to act as the gentle caretaker of life rather than the arbitrary childish bully. In this case, however, karma then becomes the ultimate force determining Good and Evil, which does not sit right with some in religious power since it places God as subordinate to something and suggests that something (karma) pre-exists God. It also suggests the possibility of some sort of accountability on God's part to karmic forces... Something I have wondered about for some time, but have found no substantial or satisfying answers outside of my own. Perhaps you are also combining Taoism, Buddhism, and other major religions to inform your own developing spirituality?

There are many more ways in which this question could be pulled or recombined for more answers, but I'm writing a Y!A answer, not a book!

Answer 10

karma ceases when you stop living for yourself.

true prayer begins as you finish all your rebirths to the earthen energy, and accept/do compassion & love.

religion doesnt count. religion created karma.
there is a Power and a Glory.
look to that to get rid of karma.