Rightly dividing the word of truth?

Question

Many go with another law of law vs law as rightly divided.
Few go with grace of law law vs grace as rightly divided.
Perhaps all should go with grace only, no mention of law.
For that is notably how the God Shew in Bible does end;
And that's what makes it all right and no left(behind) at all.

Truth about Law: worketh wrath on them who give it place.
Truth about Grace: is sufficient (no law law at all required).

What are your thoughts on such?

If grace is (always is, eternal),
and law was (added) by Moses;
Then both would be grace + law,
which is as life + death(added).
So both aren't requ'd. Pick one only.
God is one: alive, not alive + dead.
Not to mention law "both good + evil",
so grace + law would then end "evil".

Answer 1

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2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth.

2ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
2ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2ti 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
2ti 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
2ti 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
2ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Answer 2

Non-Jews were never under the law to begin with, so can't have been freed from something they were never bound by in the first place.

Except for the 7 Noahide (Universal) Laws that everyone is under, and are STILL under and bound by:

1. Do not murder
2. Do not steal
3. Do not curse God
4. Do not commit adultery
5. Do not commit idolatry (do not make God a man and then worship that man, do not commit human sacrifice for sin, do not put a man/god in front of God to have to go through to get to God, all of this is idolatry)
6. Do not tear the limb from a live animal to eat (apparently this was done - this law prohibits cruelty to animals)
7. Do establish courts of law to uphold a fair and just society

Jesus didn't free anyone from these laws. If you think you are free from these laws, then run around breaking them and see how far your "grace" will get you.

And the rest of the laws in the Torah (old testament) never applied to non-Jews in the first place.

Also, Jews don't follow the law to get into heaven or to save their souls from eternal damnation. This is a lie by the Christian church.

Judaism doesn't even have such concepts. God has always given his grace to mankind (according to Judaism, which doesn't have the concept of Orginal Sin) without requiring an eternal burning hell, or a virgin human blood sacrifice for sin named Jesus.

There has never been an absence of Grace. Only the Church invented the idea that there is, and this is a lie meant to control people through fear and deception.

So, the answer to your question is: It's all nonsense.

Answer 3

Would you do away with all law? That would be a problem and I do not believe that that is God's will in either testament.
The idea that the law killeth but the spirit lives is based on the teaching of Jesus, St. Paul, etc that the old law could not give grace. That the old law made the Isrealites sinners simply because it drew the dividing line of right and wrong. The old law wasn't a bad thing. It was the instrument instituted by God to show the ancients Jews what God wanted and expected. The new law of love is by far the greater. In the new law you have Spirit, love, and justification.
From the beginning there have been rules in the Church. In the early Christian community faith in Jesus was a must, as it is now if you call yourself a christian. The Council of Jerusalem laid down rules that all were to follow. St Paul told the cities he visited no to listen to false teachers, but to listen to his teaching. Teaching implies rules. What are we to believe? St. Paul told them what to believe and told them to stay away from those who didn't share this faith.
There is a balance between law and grace. A man is hungry so he steals a loaf of bread. Did he break the law of 'Thou Shalt not steal?" Yes! But he may have done it to feed his children who are starving. The Law is a humane teacher. The Spirit is the greatest teacher. Jesus said, "I have come not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it!"

Answer 4

This is how The Message version of the Bible translates this verse, as well as some of the ones around it: 2 Timothy 2:14-17 "Repeat these basic essentials over and over to God's people. Warn them before God against pious nitpicking, which chips away at the faith. It just wears everyone out. Concentrate on doing your best for God, work you won't be ashamed of, laying out the truth plain and simple. Stay clear of pious talk that is only talk. Words are not mere words, you know. If they're not backed by a godly life, they accumulate as poison in the soul." I hope this helps you better understand what the verse is trying to say :)

Answer 5

It is by His grace that anything is possible. Even the law, meaning to accomplish anything the law requires is only possible through and with His divine grace. The Truth revealed, which is Christ the Messiah, is a form of divine grace and is the source of all revelation. The law is wholly separate from it.

Answer 6

We are justified for Grace through our Faith.
Faith without Works is Dead.
The Law (Commandments) are given so that we will know what Works we are to do to have living Faith, because Dead Faith is worthless.

Without the law, there is no sin. Without sin, there is no repentance, if there is no repentance, there is no need for the atonement. Without the atonement , Jesus' sacrifice was in vain and God is a liar. If God is a liar, He is not God.

We in no way "earn" the grace that God extends to us. We are only required to do our best. Give God our Best...and trust God to take care of the rest. To do less would be to be ungrateful and worthless children.

Answer 7

The Law was not abolished - but made complete in Jesus - He said He fulfilled the Law and the Prophets.

But, now we have the law written on our hearts. Instead of being in a rigid, works-minded road to salvation, we now do what God wants out of choice, out of love. Now, God speaks to our hearts, whether directly or through the scripture (actually, He speaks directly when we are convicted of a scripture, right?). Then, grace is there because we have the potnetial to blow it, so grace gets us back on track.

Grace is not the opposite of law - it is what keeps us in check, so we can follow God as He wants us to. Otherwise, why follow after God and live as we please - enough of that going around. Jesus' death was not so we could have grace to live in our own filth - it was so we could get connected to God as Jesus stands as our Advocate, defending us so we can continue to "get it right."

Answer 8

wow, heavy question. I believe God gave us His law to show us His holiness and perfection. It is a reflection of His nature.

He also gave us law (pre-grace) in order for us to relate to Him. Without the law, we were steeped in sin and had no ability to see His face.

Jesus abolished the need for the law by being Himself the High Priest -- the sacrificial lamb, and by fulfilling all the laws in His sinless life. He now is the entrypoint to relationship with God, because He is the New Adam, born again from the dead.

That is why now, we don't seek relationship with God through the law, but through Jesus Christ.

Answer 9

I got by the " law of laws vs law ". Then I come to " grace of law law vs grace ". I would have to guess that with all those law laws, and law laws vs law laws vs poor grace, My guess is that Gracie is in a bad way, I don't give her much hope.

Answer 10

You've got it all the wrong way round - replace law with grace, and truth with the word.