Who do you think Melchesideck is?

Question

Good luck on this one. I'm particularly interested in answers from "Christians" but welcome all answers.

Please consider the following description of what most people today call a “Born Again Christian.”

Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Now contrast that description to Melchisedec

Hbr 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Hbr 7:4 Now consider how great this man [was], unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

The Gnostics believed that it was the destiny of men to take on the divinity of Christ through edification via the Holy Spirit, a process they called Gnosis. They believed that Melchisedec was nothing more than an enlightened human, not the first and not the last, and that this Gnosis was for everyone.

Somehow the anti-heretical literature from the RC Church accuses them of teaching that only an elite few could experience Gnosis but that isn’t true, especially among the Cathars who were (so far as the church knows) annihilated. It was and is the Catholics that reserve priesthood for a certain few, rather than for all men and women of faith to be their own priests.

If it makes you nervous to think a human could wield the power of god then consider.

Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Not to mention the faith as a mustard seed quote; so if Christ is God, and believers are the church and the church is the bride of Christ and a bride and groom become one flesh, then a true believer IS God.

It’s funny when Christians tell me “It’s theoretically possible to have as much faith as Jesus spoke of but no one can actually achieve it.” I can’t find anything that says humans have to fail at this endeavor.

It would seem the “Good News” is better than you think, now if someone had faith in the promises…..

See the universe isn't stranger than you imagine it's stranger than you CAN imagine.

Answer 1

What a great question !!!! Mel..was God !!! Walking the earth as a man...it was His 'dress rehersal' for being able to send Jesus.

Then, He ascended back into heaven and worked with women and men....with women: He made several barren women to bear and He evolved men to be faithful, be patient and learn to trust His ways.

Answer 2

The name is Melchizedek. In Genesis, he was the King of Salem, later known as Jerusalem.

Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah spoken of as "a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), and so Jesus plays the role of High Priest once and for all. Jesus is considered a priest in the order of Melchizedek because, like Melchizedek, Jesus was not a Levite, and thus would not qualify for the Levitical priesthood (Heb. 7:13-17).

Read the articles.

Answer 3

Melchisedek was a king - His name is from the Hebrew and it actually is literally Melech tzedek. Melech means "king" and "tzedek". People often really, really mistranslate Hebrews 7:3, which says, "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life, but made like unto the son of God abideth a priest continually." People use this to teach the idea that this means that Melchisedek must've been "pre-existent", like an angel, or like God, or they say that it teaches that this man was like Christ in that He was never born, and he never died. However, this is not what the verse means. If you read all of Hebrews 7 beginning with verse 1 through verse 6, you will see what it really means. The verses are talking about the priesthood of God. It says that Melchisedek, who also happened to be the King of Salem came to Abraham and he blessed Abraham. Abraham then gave a tithe to him. Tithes were given to temple priests. Where it's talking about Melchisedek's not having a father or mother, or beginning or end of life, it's not saying he was some kind of spirit or angel. It is talking about the temple priesthood. A person could not be part of the priesthood unless they could prove that they were from the lineage of Levi. In other words, they had to be able to show when that either their mother or their father could be traced to Aaron. In Melchisedek's case, they're saying that he had no birth record that could show he belonged as a priest. He couldn't prove his parentage, or when he was born. The phrase "end of life" is mistranslated. If you look at a concordance, you can easily see that this phrase should be translated "set or fixed goal, limit or conclusion of life". In other words, what was he called to in life? What was his purpose? People's careers were predetermined by their lineage. They carried on the family career according to what their fathers were assigned on Mount Sinai. The twelve tribes were set up very specifically and assigned different roles. Levi's family were the priests, others were builders, others were given the job of praise, like the tribe of Judah, etc. So what the whole verse is saying is that Melchisedek didn't by birthright belong to the family of priests who collected the tithes. But Mechizedek's authority was recognized by Abraham outside of the fact that he had no lineage to tie him to the role of the priesthood, just like Jesus' authority on earth was recognized by some even though He didn't have a human father. God caused Mary to conceive. A man's heritage as to occupation was always dictated by his father's lineage, not his mother's. So this verse is comparing Melchizedek to Jesus because they had the same dilemma in life - never being able to prove their heritage. Hebrews 7:6 says "But he whose descent is not counted received tithes", showing for sure what these verses mean. It says that Melchizedek's priesthood abides continually anyway! Despite his heritage. The same is true for Jesus. Despite his heritage, his authority as a high priest was recognized not only in his lifetime, but was perserved continually. That's who Melchizedek is, and that's what these verses mean.

Answer 4

Melchizedek is a mysterious figure in the Bible who appeared to Abraham after he defeated the armies that sacked Sodom and took his nephew Lot off to captivity.

His name means King of Peace or Salem and King of Righteousness. The Bible says that he was a type of Jesus in that he appeared to have no human ancestry or time of an end to his life and because he was a priest who was not in the priestly line of Aaron and Levi.

Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace. 3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest forever.

4 See how great this man was to whom Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the spoils! 5 And those descendants of Levi who receive the priestly office have a commandment in the law to take tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, though these also are descended from Abraham. 6 But this man who does not have his descent from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 It is beyond dispute that the inferior is blessed by the superior.

Answer 5

Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizedek
Melchizedek, has no beginning and has no end--a type of Jesus. So, if you say one you in essence are speaking of the divinity of the God Head--Jesus the son.

Answer 6

Melchizedek



Main Entry: 1Mel·chiz·e·dek
Pronunciation: mel-'ki-z&-"dek
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek Melchisedek, from Hebrew MalkIsedheq
: a priest-king of Jerusalem who prepared a ritual meal for Abraham and received tithes from him

Answer 7

The Book of Hebrews said Melchesidec was without parents, or lineage. Therefore, he must have been a spirit that took corporeal from. But people will "believe" what that want.

Answer 8

He is the first guy to offer Bread and Wine as a sacrifice. All priests are ordained in the order of Melchesideck.

Answer 9

It is said that the New Testament is concealed in the Old and the Old Testament is revealed in the New. This is never clearer than when studying the Eucharist throughout Scripture. Doing so will help us defend our faith to others as well as lead us to a greater appreciation of this sacrament.

"Typology" is the study of things from the Old Testament that foreshadow or prefigure things in the New Testament. There are numerous "types" in the Old Testament. For example, Abraham's uncompleted sacrifice of his son, Isaac, to the completed sacrifice of God's only begotten son, Jesus. Typology can help show us that eating Christ's body and blood was God's intention throughout time and was later fulfilled. There are many types that could be examined in depth, but for the sake of space four examples will suffice.

"Melchizedek, king of Salem, brought out bread and wine, and being a priest of God Most High, he blessed Abram" (Genesis 14:18).

Melchizedek is referred to only twice in the Old Testament, but his meaning should not be overlooked. Paul writes extensively about him in chapter seven of his letter to the Hebrews. He compares Melchizedek to Christ and shows that Christ is a non-Levitical priest of the same sort as Melchizedek, and thus not in the order of Aaron. Thus, the law of the Levitical priesthood does not lead to salvation. As Melchizedek went out to bless Abram he brought bread and wine instead of a bull or a lamb. Melchizedek was a priest prefiguring the Christ to come, and the bread and the wine prefigures the Eucharist.

"'Now then, what do you have on hand? Give me five loaves of bread, or whatever you can find.' But the priest answered David, 'I don't have any ordinary bread on hand; however, there is some consecrated bread here.' . . . So the priest gave him the consecrated bread, since there was no bread there except the bread of the Presence that had been removed from before the Lord and replaced by hot bread on the day it was taken away" (1 Samuel 21:3-6).

Here David, leading his soldiers, stopped to request some food. The priest did not have regular bread and so gave David and his men consecrated bread. This bread was known as the Bread of the Presence. This bread is an example of the "Bread of Life" to come in Christ Jesus as well as the Eucharistic meal. We see here that consecration of bread is not a Catholic invention starting at New Testament times, but an ancient tradition going back thousands of years, long before Christ was born.

"Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a day's portion every day, that I will prove them, whether they will walk in my law or not' . . . And when the dew had gone up, there was on the face of the wilderness a fine, flake-like thing, fine as hoarfrost on the ground. When the people of Israel saw it, they said to one another, 'What is it?' For they did not know what it was. And Moses said to them, 'It is the bread which the Lord has given you to eat.' . . . And the people of Israel ate the manna forty years . . . till they came to the border of the land of Canaan" (Exodus 16:4, 14-15, 35).

This is type from the Old Testament prefiguring the manna to come, Christ Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as the "Bread of Life" and then compares himself to the manna that his audience's forefathers ate (John 6:25-40). John places this teaching directly before he writes Christ's teaching of eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Those who read this account would understand the comparison John is drawing. Notice that the Israelites ate this bread out of obedience to God and in order to survive. Likewise, we need Christ to survive our daily lives.

"Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a year old; you shall take it from the sheep or from the goats. . . . Then they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and the lintel of the houses in which they eat them. They shall eat the flesh that night, roasted; with unleavened bread and bitter herbs they shall eat it. . . . And you shall let none of it remain until the morning, anything that remains until the morning you shall burn. In this manner you shall eat it: your loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord's passover" (Exodus 12:5, 7-8, 10-11).

Christ's passion began with the Last Supper, the beginning of Passover. Christ is the Lamb of the greatest Passover of all time, the human race. John the Baptist called Jesus "the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). This lamb is our sacrifice. He died for our sins so that we might have life. It is by consuming his flesh through the Eucharist that we partake in the Christian Passover. This is no accident. When Christ says, "It is finished," he is saying that the Passover of the human race has been accomplished, the Law fulfilled, and communion with God restored. The Eucharist then becomes the sign of this New Covenant and also the means of building communion with God not just once, but continually (Matt. 26:27; Luke 22: 19).

Answer 10

I believe that Melchizedek is an Old Testament appearance of Jesus.

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