why do people think god can't or can be proven.?

Question

Some people falsely believe that it is impossible to prove the unexistence of anything, but they are wrong. It can, for example, be proved that there is no even prime number greater than two. Other people use to say that there is no way to prove if there is a god or not, or even that we cannot get any knowledge of god (agnosticism). My opinion as a strong atheist, is that we can in fact prove that god does not exist in the physical world.

Answer 1

Opinions are a dime a dozen. Whenever you're ready, prove that God doesn't exist (as you so boldly claimed to be able to do).

Answer 2

I think existence of God can be proven. So today we believe the existence of many things which we could not see, but we feel it. For example air, electricity,sound,the rays from our tv remote and many more. But even this is not enough to prove the existence of God. So i have one thing to prove that God is existing. Thats the "Nature" so we people have natural ability, we can speak, hear, smell,see,feel. Apart from this we(humans) have a special ability that is we can "think" which animals don't have. Thinking is prime source why Humans have been developed and animals are not. Today we have been developing so much in every fields, but there are yet lot of them to be undiscovered,where the life came from, and why it dies these are the questions yet to be answered. Now i am coming to the core point, so we will live in this world for not more than 80 or 100 years, but still even if you die the sun will come in the morning and it will set in the evening, the seas will be there, the moon will be there, the stars will be there, the nature preforms its work "eternally". So as you can see the history, people worshiped nature because of its existence. But as you know if the nature is being eternal, why cant humans live forever. This question arises that there is an existence of something we don't even know what it is. So we people name it as "God" and worship it in different form. So the proof here i like to give you is "Nature". so the nature is the proof that God exists and yes it is mysterious thing which man can not find it anyway, but can feel. The world we live has been estimated, for destruction but i feel people will one day live an eternal life which gives us the meaning of life. Good Bye

Answer 3

Science observes and measures the natural
world. From those data it infers the empirical laws that govern
physical and biological processes. Explanations of large classes of
phenomena must make testable predictions and be falsifiable. That is,
there must be a way to make an observation that could disprove the
explanation…The requirement of falsifiability rules out supernatural
explanation; you cannot disprove, for instance, the claim that God
scattered fossils throughout rock strata to make it look as if species
had evolved over millions of years. God may have done that, but we'll
never know and there is no way to disprove it. In that way, faith is
fundamentally different from science.

Answer 4

And I would dearly love to know how atheists can snub logical proofs that He does indeed exist. What's wrong with this piece, that it is ignored and given thumbs down?

- Proving the Existence of God -

THE BEGINNING

If we do indeed exist, there can be only two possible explanations for such a phenomenon. Either we had a beginning or we did not. The Bible says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). The atheist has always maintained that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed in the form of either matter or energy; and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to form, but it has always been. The Humanist Manifesto says, "Matter is self-existing and not created," and that is a concise statement of atheistic belief.

In order to decide whether the theist or atheist is correct we must ask after science to discover what it says regarding this question. In the local 'brane' of the cosmos are a number of galaxies like our own Milky Way. These galaxies are accelerating away from each other with every passing moment. We live in an expanding universe that gets bigger and bigger with every passing day. Now if we suppose that time can run backwards, we could see that all galaxies must come together at a beginning, at a point of universal expansion which scientists call a singularity. This puts the lie to the idea of an eternal universe. It had a beginning.

A second proof is seen in the energy sources that fuel the cosmos. Like all stars, the sun generates its energy by a process known as thermonuclear fusion. In every second, the sun compresses 564 million tons of hydrogen, fusing its components into 560 million tons of helium with 4 million tons of matter released as energy. In spite of that tremendous consumption of fuel, the sun has only used up 2% of the hydrogen it had on the day it was born. This incredible furnace is not unique. Indeed, this process takes place in every single star in the universe, as well as some gas giant planets such as Jupiter in our own solar system.

Now for a simple logical question: Throughout the cosmos there are 25 quintillion stars, each converting hydrogen into helium, thus reducing the total amount of hydrogen existing in the cosmos. Now if everywhere in the cosmos, hydrogen is being consumed, and if that process has been going on 'forever', how much hydrogen should be left? Obviously, the universe should have run out of hydrogen long ago. The fact is, however, that our sun has 98% of its original hydrogen still available.

Hydrogen is the most abundant material in the universe. Everywhere we look in space we can see the hydrogen 21 cm line in the spectrum - a frequency of light only given off by hydrogen. This would not be possible unless we indeed had a beginning.

A third scientific proof that the atheist is wrong is seen in the second law of thermodynamics. In any closed system, things tend to become disordered. If an automobile is never repaired, for example, it will become so disordered that it will eventually cease to run.

Getting 'old' is simple conformity to the second law of thermodynamics. In space, things also get old. Astronomers refer to this aging process as 'heat death'. If the cosmos is "everything that ever was or is or ever will be," as Dr. Carl Sagan was so fond of saying, then nothing can be added to it to improve its order, or to repair it. Even a 'bouncing' universe that expanded and collapsed forever would eventually die because it would lose light and heat with each expansion and rebound.

The atheist's assertion that matter/energy is eternal is scientifically impossible. The biblical assertion that there was indeed a beginning is in complete agreement with scientific principals.

THE CAUSE

If we know that creation has a beginning, we are faced with another logical question - was creation caused or was it not caused? The Bible states, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Not only does the Bible maintain that there was a cause - a creation - but it also tells us what the cause was. It was God. The atheist tells us that "matter is self-existing and not created." If matter had a beginning and yet was uncaused, one must logically maintain that something would have had to come into existence out of nothing. From empty space with no force, no matter, no energy, and no intelligence, matter would have to become existent. Even if this could happen by some strange new process unknown to science today, there is a logical problem: In order to say that matter can come from nothing, we would need to invalidate all scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy, including those of chemistry. Aand conservation of angular momentum would have to be wrong, invalidating all of physics. All of our laws of conservation of electric charge would have to be wrong, invalidating all of electronics. In order to believe matter is uncaused, one has to discard most if not all known laws and principles of science. No reasonable person is going to do this simply to maintain a personal atheistic position.

The atheist's assertion that matter is eternal is wrong. The atheist's assertion that the universe is uncaused and self-existing is also incorrect. The Bible's assertion that there was a beginning which had a cause is supported strongly by the available scientific evidence.

THE DESIGN

If we know that creation had a beginning, and that the beginning had a cause, there is one last question for us to answer - what was this cause? The Bible tells us that God was the cause. We are further told that this God did the causing with planning, reason and logic. Romans 1:20 tells us that we can know who God is "through the things he has made."

The atheist, on the other hand, will try to convince us that we are the product of Chance. Julian Huxley once said: "We are as much a product of blind forces as is the falling of a stone to earth or the ebb and flow of the tides. We have just happened, and man was made flesh by a long series of singularly beneficial accidents."

The subject of design has been one that has been explored in many different ways. For most of us, simply looking at our newborn child is enough to rule out chance. Modern-day scientists like Paul Davies and Frederick Hoyle and others are raising elaborate objections to the use of chance in explaining natural phenomena. A principle of modern science has emerged in the 1980s called "the anthropic principle." The basic thrust of the anthropic principle is that chance is simply not a valid mechanism to explain the atom or life. If chance is not valid, we are constrained to reject Huxley's claim and to realize that we are indeed the product of an intelligent God.

Answer 5

Well, if you think that then go ahead. Do it. Put these miserable fundie fanatics to shame. Then we can be done with it once and for all.

Go on.. Prove his nonexistence.. [waiting, with arms folded and foot tapping]

Answer 6

Opinions are subjective, meaning they're influenced by personal opinion.

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There is absolute truth.

Answer 7

try agnosticism, it will free you of all these time wasting debates and allow you to get on with your life.

Answer 8

God Bless You and help you; you are in great danger with your beliefs.