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home work help.. please..

our teacher asked us how we can disprove this statement:

if God have no beginning and no end, and nothing has no beginning and no end..

therefore, is God nothing?


please explain it to me and give me your opinion about this..

P.S. i'm not arguing against believers and non- believers.. this is JUST a question so don't take it personally..


thank you.

2007-07-07 03:17:47 · 12 answers · asked by ceanji 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

12 answers

God is a being, a spirit to be exact, without which nothing would, definitely, exist.

If God and nothing were equated that would mean that there were no being, a lack of any being, therefore, if there were no God, there would be no being, nothing would exist. It doesn't. No where in the universe, even in black holes, is there nothing.


Jeremiah 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

2007-07-07 03:40:39 · answer #1 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 1 0

You have worded the question rather wrong, though I am a philosophy major and I have encountered a statement like it...

God is stated to be an omnipotent, omniscient, and incorporeal being which has always been in existence according to Christian dogma. Accordingly God exists outside of time. Though this raises some interesting questions, for example, the nature of time, and what does time mean?

What you have to realize is that religion and the notion of God, that is the Christian conception is founded on the fallacy of begging the question. In a sense a circular argument that cannot be proven and is completely illogical. Point simply made, the notion of God's existence is illogical. If you believe that all there is in this world is matter (materialist) you cannot believe that something spontaneously came into being.

Though as you have said you are merely trying to disprove an argument, that is subvert it, and find another logical possibility, that is simple, and Christian dogma has been doing it for centuries. Simply argue that God has always existed, that infinite regress is not illogical (that is, it does not produce a contradiction). Or that he has existed out side of time, and only within time does relativity of "beginning and end" occur, because time requires change(not to get into philosophy of time).

2007-07-07 03:36:26 · answer #2 · answered by FIUPoliticalScience 1 · 0 1

Obviously one part of the statement is false. It cannot be both true that God has no beginning and end AND nothing (no one) has no beginning and end.

Your teacher has taken the assumption that the second part of this statement is true, therefore the first part is false.

I take the stand that God is eternal (and He exists), therefore the second part of your teacher's statement is false.

To say "nothing has no beginning and end" then you must know about everything, or the one thing you don't know might be that which is eternal.

2007-07-07 03:35:19 · answer #3 · answered by JoeBama 7 · 0 0

God is the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end, God created everything by spoken word and it came into being. No body can fathem the mind of God because God is God and is Holy. God sent his only begotten Son Jesus into this world to die for the sins of this world. God has always existed and without God nothing would exist.

2007-07-07 03:26:34 · answer #4 · answered by just me 2 · 1 0

proper homework would be spelled proper [using proper e nglish
how to disprove a lie is to see what is being said to what is really being said

to wit if
god have [has ] ? no beginning
well god has
in the beginning [the void]

but
god allways was allways will be [look up eternal]
thus god has no beginning
[yet is all beginnings , and no end ]
who is to say for sure ??

and nothing?? has [no] beginning [yeah like what is now allways was?
and no end [yeah right , even god couldnt know even if therec was/wasnt it would be speculative

therefore as in the qtestion , is not even a proper sentance
is god nothing [no god is all[
without god there is no light [thus no life]

so we come and join the [your]beginning ''[homework ]'' to the end
ie ''i'm not arguing against believers and non- believers''

2007-07-07 03:30:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

On the contrary, GOD is all existance. GOD isn't subject to temporal interpretation either. We mustn't limit GOD to HIS creation and say GOD is subject to time-space which is HIS creation. Furthermore it is axiomatic to say that a thing has a creator by virtue of its being. However GOD is the creator who has always been. Cogito Ero Sum. I think therefore I AM. GOD is existance as given by HIS name to Moses upon the Mountain. We exist because of GOD. To deny GOD then is to deny your own existance. We know a creation of man as a car or computer has a creator and say it is ipso facto that there was a creator to it. But why then when it comes to the natural and percievable even to man himself do some want to dispell this same course of logic? If we were to do so we would have dispense with our original logical premise of there beign a creator for a percievable thing. The difference is, of course, one is man-made and one is GOD-made. And this is the difference between idols and TRUE worship too. That is when a person puts themselves in the role of GOD and says i can create, but then ignores GOD they disprove themselves. But if they put themselves into the role of the created, then we see that GOD is discernable from the perceivable universe. GOD's existance is then axiomatic.

The counter arguement that GOD is disprovable by the fact that eternal existance isn't reasonable is also illogical because then you must say creation has always been or began at some past time, and revert either to implausible and unproveable theories as to how this could be, but it come to infinities and infinite existance. Which is what we just said about GOD. If the universe, or some series of dimensions had been infinite or perpetual, you can make the same statement about GOD upon that premise. Only if we say there was nothing and the finite universe was created among nothing for no reason without anything . .. but then we would disprove ourselves by the fact that we can percieve . .. and on that basis we would be able to justify what we would . .. why care about one another if we are all doomed to die being born in emptiness for no reason without possibility of it ever happening again. . . it is unreasonable doesn't agree with logic . .. Therefore again our ETERNAL and INFINITE GOD is axiomatic . .. and GOD is once again knowable and discernable from the perceivable universe around us.

I cannot think of anything more illogical than athiesm.

-LOVE your neighbor as yourself
Amen.

Edit: You can't disprove GOD with a universal negative.

2007-07-07 04:28:31 · answer #6 · answered by jesusfreakstreet 4 · 0 0

If your teacher really wrote this:

if God have no beginning and no end, and nothing has no beginning and no end..

therefore, is God nothing?

He/she really needs some remedial English classes.

2007-07-07 03:21:39 · answer #7 · answered by Cheryl E 7 · 0 1

Purely bad logic.

If the sky is blue and my car is blue, are they made of same thing?

Or if nothing has no beginning and no end and God has no beginning and no end then nothing must be God...

2007-07-07 03:22:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

It is up to each whether God exists or not he is a person or inexplicable phenomenon. But, nevertheless, everything follows something. Nothing can't create nothing.

2007-07-07 03:45:02 · answer #9 · answered by Yana Y 1 · 1 0

It's a very simple bit of faulty logic... remove the words and you'll see...

if A has B, and C has B then A is C.

That is like saying that frogs are green, and leaves are green; therefor frogs are leaves.

2007-07-07 03:21:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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