christians - so many of you seem so afraid of knowledge, why is that?

Question

it's evident in so many questions and answers in here. many of you won't take the word of science over the word of god (even though the word of god was written 2000 yrs ago by people who didn't know about the way the world truly works), and many won't even educate yourselves enough to privide a good argument against scientific fact. many of you seem to think that macro evolution means one species giving birth to a different one, when really it's just the compounded effects of micro evolution. there is much more than just those points.

anyway why does it seem that most atheists are more knowledgable about the world than most christians?

disclaimer - there are some very intelligent christians in this forum and in the real world, but the atheists just seem to out number them greatly

misty - it's not ignorant at all. i never said "all" christians, read my disclaimer

Answer 1

I agree with tjamison96.
In my experience with some Christians, ( and I consider myself to be one) there is way too much following the church, not invesitgating on ones own, not having an open mind, and just limiting oneself to the knowledge that they receive from their church. Therefore, it may seem that some Athiests have more knowledge about alot of things scientific, and even more knowledge about the Bible. That is because some athiests have an inquiring mind that wants answers to things. That is a good thing to have, a mind that's thirsty for scientific facts. However, in most cases that mind that seeks knowledge takes them over the edge, and they become
so "intelligent" ( I use the word intelligent, with a bit of sarcasm) that they no longer see the need for God; as they feel "enlightened" and above it all! Just reading some of the answers on Yahoo, when reading between the lines, it becomes very evident!
Now, if only some Christians would loosen up, take an interest in "discoveries" outside the "box", we Christians could seriously "kick the butts of the non-believers!"
On this forum, and perhaps in the world, generally speaking, there seems to be too many Christians who just hold on to certain beliefs they have, in spite of new knowledge, some won't "budge" and allow themselves to open their minds, and add to their growth as individuals. I believe that God has provided an amazing amount of resources for knowledge, and that He wants us to use the brain He gave us!

Answer 2

"many of you seem to think that macro evolution means one species giving birth to a different one, when really it's just the compounded effects of micro evolution."

Maybe you didn't realize that you are making a distinction where none exists.

Macro evolution IS the means of one species giving birth to a different one through the compounded effects of micro evolution. The problem is that macro evolution is an incorrect extrapolation of micro evolution.

All Christians accept that there are small variations within a species (micro evolution, if it can truly be called that). But Christians also know that based on the available SCIENTIFIC evidence involving selective breeding (including those conducted by Darwin on pigeons), that the graph tends to level out after a number of generations, i.e. that the gradient gradually approaches zero. If the graph is extrapolated ACCORDING TO THE TREND, the predicted results will NOT be macro evolution. But here is where macro evolution blatantly CHEAT : the extrapolation is done based on the trend of of ONLY THE EARLY PARTS OF THE GRAPH. And evolutionists still have the audacity to call THAT science !!!

Answer 3

I don't know about that. At a time when the most learned and educated men of science thought the earth was flat and carried by a turtle or in Greek times, with the scientific method beginning, the Bible stated hundreds of years before the earth was round and hung upon nothing. (Isaiah 40:22; Job 26:7)

While I would give wholehearted support to more education in both science and the Bible, they are not mutually exclusive. Rather, it is lack of proper understanding of the Bible that is the problem.

A man once told me of a preacher who told him concerning a relative's death, the dead man was with him, in the casket, in heaven, in the grave, and in purgatory all at the same time. The preacher offered to pray him out of purgatory though it would take several sessions to do so. Each time money was to be passed for his efforts. He the preacher said he was out to his knees, the man said, "He was always a good jumper. He can take it from there."

With such ridiculousness going on, is it any wonder the teaching is so poor? What makes it really sad is this is not a story. It actually happened.

The Bible is so simple and true. Eccles. 9:5,10 says clearly, the dead are not able to think or feel anything. They do not know of the living or influence anything in any way. Ezekiel 18:4 states "the soul that is sinning, it itself will die." How much clearer could it be? Yet false religion continues to spread the doctrines of immortality of the soul and hell.

Answer 4

not true. I am a Christian and a Naturalist. I have worked and taught as such for years. I do not discredit many scientific things even though not stated in Bible. The one thing I do not believe is human evolution from apes. I believe in creation. Why is it that because I do you would call me uneducated? I know the other theories, I just do not believe them. The word of science, at best is usually speculative. We "hypothisize" about things and most in the scientific community take it as fact. Evolution is not fact, it is still a theory. We do know about things adapting to environments but for something to evolve in a true sense it needs to shed one old way for a completly new way thus becoming a new species. That has never been seen or proven. As far as the word of God being written by someone who does not know science~ it was written by God and He knows more than we ever will. I just personally would like to see people be more loving individuals, just because I do not believe everything you do does not make me uneducated or mean that I do not like science. I put no one and nothing before God. Why cant science take the word of God seriously? Why is it that we as Christians are attacked for our unproven beliefs but your unproven beliefs are okay?

Answer 5

I think the problem lies with people who set religion up against science. Mostly fundamentalists who use the Bible as a science text, when it was clearly never intended to be. The two - religion and science, are in my view, not opposites but complement one another. The Bible doesn't really go into great detail about *how* God created. It speaks the basic truth that God was responsible for the creation, and that in the very beginning, it all came from God where nothing had been before.

The theories of the Big Bang, and evolution could very well be true - I tend to believe in them myself, and I consider myself to be a devout, Bible-believing Christian - Catholic, not fundamentalist. I've always been interested in science and scientific subjects, but I also believe in God and the supernatural.

Science = tells us how our universe is ordered, and how it works

Religion = tells us why it's here (it's purpose & reason for being here, as opposed to how it got here)

Answer 6

Science is a religion in the sense that it is a belief. Whatever you believe in science is accepted by faith. In science, how much have you read? Do you believe it because it makes sense to you, or the author is trusted, or because you personally have gone out and tested the theory? Chances are, most of your scientific background comes from books and learning, as does it does with most of us.

Correction. The word of God was written 4000 years ago and was completed 2000 years ago. It was written by the Creator himself. It includes physics and astronomy that men have been trying to disprove for centuries. One example is the shape of the Earth. If you look into history around the fifteenth century, popular opinion said that the earth was flat. Remember the whole Columbus story. The Bible says that the Earth is round.

Science cannot disprove the Bible as both are accepted by faith. Better study up on your history. Many of the greatest scientists were Christians including Newton, Galileo, Carnot, Einstein, Coulomb and Gauss. I could name more, but really don't have time to do so.

Answer 7

Well, to be perfectly honest...I know this is going to ruffle some feathers, but it's the truth as I see it.

I'm a Christian, first off.

The reason some Christians aren't knowledgable about science is because they don't HAVE to be. It doesn't take scientific knowledge, or any other kind of knowledge, to be a Christian, or ANY religion, really. All it takes is faith, and for some of them, that's all they require.

Answer 8

I like to consider myself a christian, but i don't believe in a great deal of things in mainstream christianity and don't really belong to any sect. I understand what you're talkin about though. I personally believe in evolution and i've tried to talk about it to christians i know. I believe many take comfort in staying in the mainstream of things and not thinking on their own. The bible can be interpreted in many different ways. I think some christians believe that if they start to let go of some of the things they believe in they will lose their faith, but people should see that science and religion are integrated and not separate entities altogether. And by the way not all christians are the same. I agree with osirica in many ways too.

Answer 9

No, not at all. There are many scientists who are Christians.

One of our priests was raised in a non-religious home. His parents are highly educated people. He became a NASA scientist. For years he worked for NASA before being led to the priesthood. His work did not deny God. He is so in love with God, he just beams. He's also told me that the idea that science and God are at odds is wrong. Many of the people he worked with at NASA do believe in God.

This priest's brother is still an atheist as are his parents.

Additionally, we just acquired a seminarian who has been a physicist for 15 years. He has a masters degree in physics. Again, a very highly educated and knowledgeable person seeking God and joining the priesthood.

There are many knowledgeable and intelligent people of faith. Your "assumption" is incorrect. I just read the Pope's book Jesus of Nazareth. The Pope is such an intelligent and educated person...he is so knowledgeable and good with words. He would probably astound you.

I think it's rather ignorant to assume that science is for the knowledgeable and faith is for those of us who cannot understand or otherwise think for themselves.

You know what they say about people who assume....

Answer 10

the clarification lots of folk immediately are afraid and have such constrained wisdom is via the fact Christianity exchange into invented to do away with religious and occult wisdom (the powers of the ideas) from the inhabitants, and instill concern, and to place this capability interior the palms of a "chosen" few to the detriment of all humanity. The powers of the ideas and soul are very genuine. people who're blind to or who don't think in those powers are user-friendly to administration and control by people who're experienced in using those energies.