How screwed up is Nascar? I used to enjoy it.?

Question

COT, fines, suspensions, penalties, lawsuits and now Boris Saads problem. They(management) are out of touch with the workers. A common theme the last 20 yrs. Who, if anybody can save Nascar from itself?(Helton has to go)

Answer 1

I've been gettin' worried about these issues too . . . its all about the $$$ and not about the love of the sport . . . when I can't make it to the races, I don't wanna see commercials ever 20 laps or hear about rediculous penalties, or lawsuits, fines, restrictions, blah, blah, blah . . . they better fix things fast or they will lose long time fans . . .

Answer 2

I've been around racing in one form or another since the 50's when I went to my first race. I have seen a lot of changes and many of them very good ones.
You mention changes the last 20yrs and I agree to a certain extent but they have been fairly subtle changes not like the about face that NSACR did when they got the 6 billion dollar TV deal 6 or 7 years ago with FOX sports being the leading money holder of that. I was told then that with FOX involved they would ruin it and I thought the ones that said it was just plan full of it. I was wrong they were right. Thank God it's over and with way more hope than just one person can muster up it will start getting a bit more tolerable. OK I'm dreaming.
I'm not sure what you mean about the Boris Saads problem. I might have missed something unless you are talking about top qualifier and then qualifying being rained out so he goes home? That is the rule that goes with that situation. I didn't like it but that is that. I have been a Saad fan many years long before he started trying the NASCAR thing so I was rel happy to see he was on top but when you hold qualifying this late in the day in Florida and have this rule well it just might get rained out.
Venture out away from NASCAR to get your race fix. It's there. You need to love racing not just NASCAR though or you screwed.
The MOTO GP, WSB and AMA guy ae abolutly great to watch most of the time.

Answer 3

I still love NASCAR and probably will for a long time to come.

NASCAR has always had issues with it's rules. The oldest joke in NASCAR is that the rulebook is written in pencil. Like most racing series, NASCAR changes the rules from race to race. F1, IRL, Champ, even the NHRA have "penciled" rulebooks.

Where NASCAR differs from the other major series however is that they are notorious for enforcing rules that are not in the rulebook. At Sonoma they saw something they did not like on the 24 and 48 car, so they told them to change it and then went and put it in the rulebook.

The 8, 24, and 48 all got hit real hard with penalties involving the COT. At Louden the 82, 5, and 70 got caught with rule violations on the COT; yet the 82 simply got sent home; the 5 and 70 each lost 25 points and $25,000. This after Mr. France promised stiffer penalties for COT rules violations. Way to hold that promise up. Three Teams cheated at Louden and their penalties collectively added up to 3/4 of that of the 8 Teams penalties. Not fair or consistent and definately not a stiffer penalty.

Yes, Mr. Helton and Mr. France need to take a step back and look at the circus they have created. If they can not bring consistency and creditablity to rules and rule enforcement then maybe they need to step down and hire someone who can.

Answer 4

When the elder France guys ran the show, it was a great sport. Now that the France kid has taken over, things have went down hill fast. With the COT and a rule change to change the rule happens every 10 min, this sport is bulls***t. I am guessing that with all the flak that has happened over Boris not getting to race tonight, there will be another rule change next week. Then there will be a rule to change that rule. Lets face facts. NASCAR is a monopoly and as such, they can do anything they want. They do not have to answer to the Feds for any move they make, they have no retirement for the drivers, no insurance and no nothing. The owners are filthy rich, France is Filthy rich and thats all that matters. They are the laughing stock of sports right now. They are akin to the WWF. Oh, I think Vince McMann could do a better job than France.

Answer 5

NASCAR has been messed up since 1948 but I, like the drivers, still show up every Sunday.

Following the first ever "Strictly Stock" race NASCAR was sued by the DQ'd winner. NASCAR has been fining, suspending and penalizing since day 1. They have been same NASCAR for even longer.

Quit your whining, it hasn't done any good for over 50 years.

NASCAR gives every fan the same option as the drivers; don't like our rules, there's the door, don't let it hit you on the way out.

NASCAR has never ever had a happy fan base but they have consistantly had the best racing.

NASCAR and controversy go hand in hand. I tune in every week to see if my driver can overcome 42 others and every freaking obstacle that NASCAR presents.

On any given Sunday there are a 150,000 fans in the stands and I'd bet that 149,999 of them are pissed at NASCAR for one reason or another. Their favorite drivers are problably pissed also but they still show up and race.

If you're not tough enough to take what NASCAR dishes out, I suggest you find something new to do on Sunday afternoons.

Answer 6

l agree with Crunch above. No doubt NASCAR has it's faults. l've only been a NASCAR fan for about 6 years, but just about every race l've watched has had some kind of controversy before and after.
And l dare say that a year from now, nobody will remember Boris Said being sent home because of rained out qualifying or that Knaus and LeTarte missed 6 races because of template infractions.

Answer 7

The days of Bobby Allison-Cale Yarbrough-Darrell Waltrip are over.The days that drivers bumped and shoved and raced their way to victory.
The "sceintific" racing was a 5 pound sledge hammer and a can of "bondo".Cheating was adding 3 feet to the fuel line.
This is past with teams that read into the rules and alter them as I did not understand.
If a car was caught out of specs in the 60's it was put on it's trailer and sent home,but since "Wall Street" came on board the masses of fans take second place to the dollars of the board room.
Bring back the days of racing.Get back to the grassroots racing.Get more short tracks get dirt tracks,Get LESS cookie cutter tracks.

Answer 8

One. Clearly Boris said should be in the race.
Two. The rules, designed to make the racing close and exciting, kill inventive abilities of the engineers.
Three. Chevrolets, Dodges and Fords, stripped of their paint, all look the same???
Four. NASCAR management are simply just too nitpicking and punitive in their rules application.
Five. Reference points two and three, NASCAR must stop micromanaging chassis, engine and overall design and development, how about some up to date technology, like multi valve heads, etc, etc. However, I am all in favor of building in all possible features for driver safety.

Answer 9

Nobody can, corporate money has ruined the sport and now it is all about sponsors and keeping the people w/ the money happy. The days of NASCAR the people loved in the 80's early 90's is a thing of the past. They should have a moment of silence before every race out of respect for killing the sport.

Answer 10

Ive been a fan all of my life and I always will be a fan on a certain level but the last few years Ive found myself attending more local dirt track races. I miss the days of the Allison Brothers and Cale Yarborough boxing it out in the infield without any backlash from the man upstairs.