Proof about the existence of God...?

Question

The proof is in science itself. The axiom which we apply in all our scientific researches, "there is no effect without a
cause", therefore, to assure ourselves of the existence of God, we have only to look abroad on the works of creation. The universe exists, therefore It has a cause. To doubt the existence of God is to doubt that every effect has a
cause, and to assume that something can have been made by nothing."

Spirits Book, author Allan Kardec.

What do you say about that?

Who created God? He is infinite and eternal, and we can't understand it, because our mind can't understand what infinite is, neither God.

Those were words from spirits themselves.

Answer 1

I LIKE IT!

Answer 2

I say it is obvious that you skipped every one of those science classes in school, huh?

Why are Christians so frequently dishonest about their scientific education? Doesn’t your religion teach that lying is a bad thing? It is obvious that you are scientifically illiterate and yet you pretend that you know what you are talking about.

In science there are no supernatural, mystical, spiritual, extra-worldly, non-empirical causes. Science cannot, and does not, address such matters unless it is to test them being the ‘effect’ of a real-world ‘cause’ (e.g., brain bio-chemistry and structure).

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Bumblebee –

Are you aware that we can still SEE the light and HEAR the sound caused by the Big Bang? Why is it too much to ask that your God, if real, meet the same standard of proof?

Further, if you do not accept evolution then you are a hypocrite if you have ever gone to a modern doctor or hospital. Without the scientific theory of evolution, medical science (and every life science) collapses and is meaningless, with no more validity than the Voodoo practiced by Witch Doctors. By your definition, modern medical science is the product of Satan and if you submit to treatment by a doctor you are giving yourself to an agent of the devil.

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Earl D ----

Let’s look at it logically. Where do baby IPODs come from? How do Mommy and Daddy IPODs reproduce?

It would have been more miraculous if life had not occurred on earth. All of the ingredients plus the water-rich environment were present. It is just a bio-chemical reaction to reasonably well understood physical processes. The smart money in Vegas would have been place on life occurring, not the other way around.

Answer 3

Oh, well when you put it that way you have still proved nothing.

If you try to use logic to prove the existence of any divine being, than you really need to sit back and think of a better way.

First of all, consider this. There is no way, that you can prove that there is a god, or goddess. Logic in this fashion will only lead you to more questions, “ok, what created god, and when you find that out, what created god’s creator?” It’s a never ending cycle.

The whole idea is faith, if you believe than he really is there for you. Just as my gods, and goddesses exist for me.

But, I really have little interest in proving or disproving any form of god. I am here to defend my right to practice what religion I choose, without constriction others rights to live, and live happily.

You can sing and dance this tune all day, and I tell you now that others have played this same song before. If you want us to prove god exists than we can help you out there, there are a number a people here who could probably convince you to buy their bottled religion, for easy consumption. That is if you want to believe, if you don’t and want us to disprove god, you’re also in the right place.

Ask yourself this question, can you really prove that god exists? Can you show him to me, other than saying hay look at this; god had to have made this? I think not.

Oh, and by the way, the bible is just a book. And peoples ability to write things down on paper is not all that uncommon. So any argument that you make with the bible really only relevant to those who see the bible as something more than a book.

Answer 4

The logic is simply pitiful. The argument is basically this:

Every effect has a cause

The universe is an effect and therefore must have a cause

Therefore, God is the cause.

It is so convenient to just insert God wherever you want. We can crush any argument for tthe existence of God. Stop trying.

Answer 5

Well you are jumping to conclusions there.

- the existence of something doesn't imply a cause as it could have just always been here
- even if there is a cause that doesn't mean it is a sky faerie.
- on the quantum level things happen without cause all the time.

M Theory suggests the cause was a collision in the underlining framework of other universes and that is what science really thinks right now.

Answer 6

Science says the cause can be random and automatic.

They do have a point. It IS certainly POSSIBLE.

But Ocums Razor dictactes that the MOST LIKELY is the MOST PROBABLE and ACCIDENTAIL is ASTRONOMICALLY small, hence a CREATOR is the most likely.

Let's look at it LOGICALLY, to coin a phrase from Atheists.

What are the ODDS of an IPOD being made accidentally, vs willfully created!

The IPOD can be made accidentally, but WHAT are the Las Vegas odds on that vs the ODDS an Intellegent Mind made it!

Answer 7

I like it and absolutely agree. Mankind cannot create anything from nothing - but our Father in Heaven can and did. He is the creator of everything - to Him be the Glory now and for ever. Amen.

By the way... There is no such thing as an atheist. Everyone believes in something...even if it is in himself.

Answer 8

you are right about the existence of God,A good scripture to go along with that is 1 Corinthians 1:20- so where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars and the worlds brilliant debaters, God has made them all look foolish.

Answer 9

What do I say about that? Stop quoting books and think for yourself.

The assumption is that the universe was created. But when we question the creation of the creator, you pull this answer out of your butts that any sane, logical being would think is complete crap. That answer is 'the Creator has always been. He has no creator. He transcends space and time.'

Complete BS. I wish I could shout that at you because it is.. complete. B. S.

Answer 10

Well I do believe that there is indeed scientific proof that God Exist. I mean the way all the planets are placed so precisely let's me know that there is someone out there Greater then you or I. And I'm NOT giving credit to a big bang! That is just crazy. And to think that humans came from Monkeys or Fish or any other animal is just mind blowing. Why isn't anything evolving now? Anyway, God is real. Weather you use cause and effect to give proof or you just straight have faith that he is alive...Know that HE is. If anybody want to know more about what I'm talking about feel free to e-mail me.

Answer 11

are you able to coach the super bang and evolution ? no you may no longer and to boot...you won't be able to coach to each physique that god does not exist. so do no longer ingredient hands till your palms are sparkling and by the way. the bible has greater historic evidence than your evolutionary theory and super bang which claims that the universe got here from no longer something appears like a super bounce of religion to me.