Why is it that those that demand tolerance....?

Question

Are the slowest to give it to others?

So often there are questions on here by people who target audiences that they know aren't going to agree with them. They ask for other people's opinions. And then they cry and scream when they aren't supported.

One of the big ones is homosexuality. Obviously, Jews and Christians aren't going to support this. And because of this, they aren't going to support gay marriage. I can tell you from a Jewish point of view it's not just about following some ancient rules that you may believe to be outdated. The union between man and woman in the covenant of marriage is the most sacred between humans - and it has many secrets that are unlocked when this union happens. Secrets of the Torah and the relationship between G-d and man.

Why do people seem to crave approval from those they can't get it from? Why is my opinion and belief less then yours? And why be so angry and full of hate towards us? I do not treat you this way.

It's amazing some of the answers I recieved.

That I am less of a person and my opinion is unworthy because it doesn't grant you an approval and blessing to do what you want.

Why do I have to approve? Apparently, you aren't approving of my life choices, of my opinion.

I would perfer to be considered intolerant then to compromise what I believe in to appease other people.

And to be clear, just because I don't approve of you doesn't mean that I hate you, are in fear of you, repressing some sort of homosexual tendenices, think homosexuals should be discriminated against, or that I have some issue with gay people.

I want none of these things. Instead, I just don't apporve of your life style. And yes I have known a lot of homosexuals in my lifetime. And many have been kind human beings and others have been hostile and deeply unhappy. And all of them worked on my constantly to approve of them. Their homosexuality wasn't an issue with me, until they made it one.

Answer 1

Craving approval - Not a clue why they seek it from those who won't give it.

Are your opinions and beliefs less than mine? Not at all - I don't think so. Just different.

Angry and hateful to "us"? Who's us? I'm not angry or feeling hateful toward anyone - though many seem to think I am because I'm a rather blunt person. Point of fact, I avoid this place when angry, or leave when I start to let this internet phenomenon actually get to me in real life - it's just smart.

And I thank you for being a decent person.

Answer 2

(1) I do not need nor crave approval from anyone.
(2) Your opinion is the same as everyone else here.
(3) I do not harbor any anger or hate towards anyone, nor do I have any clue to whom the " US " refers to??
(4) If we were to meet is a street somewhere how would you really know in what manner you would react to someone like myself?
There are issues that everyone must search out within themselves in order to one day achieve inner peace look within and chase/let go of all these negative feelings, try to find the inner well being/love for everyone this should be every ones life goal to help one another and respect for each other best we can. AMEN!

Answer 3

People have a problem understanding the difference between acceptance and approval. It seems to be the trend now days to equate the two. If you disagree with someone you are being intolerant. The truth is, anyone can disagree with someone else and still accept that the other person has made their choice. That does not mean they approve, only accept. People who scream intolerance want approval, anything less is not acceptable to them.

Answer 4

I guess it depends on what you mean by tolerance. For whatever reason, you seem to have issues with gay people. Obviously, gay people and those heterosexuals (including Jews and Christians) who believe in equality toward us are not going to support the veiled insults which are pretty easy to spot in some of your statements. Thus, you're doing the very same thing you decry, but hey, I'm game to respond to your challenges.

It's odd to me how you characterize gay people who speak out against discrimination as being somehow in need of "approval." Do you honestly think, for example, that my problem with not being allowed to see my dying partner in the hospital (in some places) means I'm seeking approval? To characterize legitimite gripes about real issues which affect real lives as some sort of need for approval is not the "kind" treatment you profess to use.

When people pass laws which harm other people, this is not loving, no matter how it's sugarcoated or by how many it's supported. Not allowing me to marry the person I love and/or protect my family is not loving; not allowing me to adopt is not loving; not allowing me to serve my country in the military is not loving; not letting me work at a job to support myself is not loving. I view these things as immoral; the belief is not immoral the harmful action from the belief is immoral. They are immoral, because the results of these beliefs in these circumstances are not loving as we are commanded to be, but rather, they are harmful to others. If I complain against these things, I'm not seeking approval. I'm speaking out against intolerance. You seem to want us to be tolerant of intolerance and you seek to turn the table to make us appear intolerant. Why should I be tolerant of laws which harm me? Why should anyone? I wonder if the same illogical reasoning was used against Martin Luther King when he spoke against racism? Maybe someone told him to just get over it and stop being intolerant of segregation and don't dare complain about those who support segregation, because it really only means he was intolerant, full of hate, anger and craved approval?

You can believe what you want. You can have any opinion or belief you want and it is just as good as mine. You can worship as you see fit. You can write, "Gay marriage is a sin," all over your house. But when you pass laws which restrict my rights while I pay the same taxes as you pay, I'm going to speak up. I don't care of you approve or not. It's a matter of justice, not approval, and I'm sorry you cannot see the difference yet.

Answer 5

In my opinion:
Tolerance is for the person, not the act. And tolerance is for all of us, not just headline seakers.

Tolerance is so we can get along in this world, and stop fighting to impose our beliefs on others.

Tolerance protects people's rights by the laws of our land.

G is The Most Tolerant of All. That's why we get forgiveness and fresh starts, at least until judgement day.

Answer 6

On a general level, I find that people who demand tolerance tend to only want it for their own benefit and are not interested in showing it to anyone else. At least this is what I have noticed. People who don't demand anything, again this is in my own experience, are usually the ones who don't set limitations on me. I guess it's because they have the capacity to live and let live. I'm a conservative Catholic but have friends from all walks of life, including homosexuals and I love them all. Hey, I'm busy trying to save myself and realize that we all have to make our own choices. My only ability is to tell people what I believe to be right and it's up to them to live the way see fit. I do however limit my company to people who, although they may have different beliefs, are good people who don't harm others and are law abiding. Those who don't fit these particular qualifications, are not in my circle of friends. It's not a matter of tolerance it just makes sense.

I need to be clear about something, I'm conservative in my political views and contemporary where my Catholicism is concerned.

Answer 7

As a Christian, I understand your stance. However, I don't agree with it. I also know some Jews who don't. That's fine that you yourself don't support gay marriage. That is your right. I'm not gay, but I don't have a problem with it since I've seen too much evidence through scholarly studies and life experience that people are born gay. You have the right to be against it, but do you have the right to forbid happiness and fulfillment to others?

Answer 8

Uh, a lot of Jews and Christians support gay marriage.

The difference between your belief -- that some people should be denied the right to marry whom they choose -- and the beliefs of the "tollerant" ones is this: We who are tolerant think people should be able to live their own lives, and not run everyone else's life for them.

You're disagreeing that people should be allowed to live their own lives has a different status, since you aren't simply living the way you want (which I think you have the right to do), but want to deny others that right.

You can live as you want; stop trying to force everyone else to live the way you want.

See the difference?

Answer 9

Trickles down to the "morality" code most of the religious proclaim but blindly overlook or DENY of their own ancestry, holy ones or following. For "words" to stand out as SUPERIOR and of an entity of superior intelligence, EVIDENCE must show it and so far mankind does not have even ONE religion, not even mine to PROVE that we are a MORAL species. Morality is the ability to distinquish between right and wrong, and I don't care how hard a religious person of ANY religion trys to convince another they hold to high moral values, BEHAVIORS have never proven it. Of all the religions of the world, just about each and every one of them hold on to claims of INCEST as the way the human race "multiplied." Were we of a race of beings of a "FLAWLESS" God, this would not be so. Were we a species of a "FLAWLESS" God, we would not be living in fear of each other or in fear of GOD itself..............We just do the BEST we CAN with what we "delude" ourselves to believe in for psychological mental STRENGHT...............

Answer 10

I like your comment and question and it is odd that they think we hate them because we dont approve of their lifestyle. No one hates them because they are gay.
I do consider what they are doing as a sin and there are many different sins that people live in. They are flaunting their love for it and expect others to be accepting of it as normal. They put their desires before they love for God and prefer to love themselves and their lusts of the flesh. So now the gays have pride parades and porno stars are applauded and have fans and movie stars love the attention of being in trouble and you will see admirers of those that murder and those that portray the vulgar violence of murder as entertainment.
We are not even to telorate evil but to love all and to stay away from from the influence of them and do what is right and good. Their form of good is self appointed and temporary according to their desires. So if a self-righteous person desires to fornicate it is good, if one wants to get drunk, it is good, if one wants to steal it is good, if one wants to watch pornography, it is good.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. (Isaiah 5:20)