died for our sins?

Question

This is a serious thing, i have always wondered.

Since i was young people have always asked why i turned my back on christianity and how i could ignore jesus who died for our sins.

I also remember reading about his words on the cross. If i remember rightly he cried out "Father, why have you forsaken me?" Now, if he thought his father had forsaken him and not saved him... How did he actually die for our sins? It seems more like he was not given the release he was expecting.

Answer 1

jesus was good before he became man, philippian 2:6

before jesus, what people do to be forgiven of their sins is they would do sacrifices, they would choose animals, lamb for example and offer that to god, they had to choose the perfect one for sacrifice, the one without defect or deformities, that was what god commanded man to do

then later, it was god's decision to stop this once and for all, and have the most perfect sacrifice, a man, perfect or sinless, he must be sinless in order for god to accept him, thats when jesus came and became the sacrifice and died for our sins, those who believe that jesus died for us actually had him as sacrifice and are forgiven

so thats more or less the idea, first it was animals, then, not for just one person but for all humanity, jesus died for our sins

now when he daid "father why have u forsaken me"
it was out of pain and sufferings, he was in pain and as a man he said those words to god, the man jesus cried those words and is normal

remember god is infinite, when god became man as jesus, god in heaven remains the same

Answer 2

Jesus did not cry out to His Father, he quoted Psalm 21. He was literally preaching to the crowd as He died. They would hear Jesus, know in their mind the quote, and then remember the context of the quote. Despite the pain Christ felt as He was dying, what came off His lips was the true feeling He must have felt that the author of Psalms wrote about. It was a quote that exhibits the feeling of abandonment, but in context, Psalm 21 answers the question that God the Father has, in fact, not abandoned anyone, and as God incarnate, Jesus could not possibly be "forsaken."

When Christ was finally about to expire, He said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" (Luke 23:46). He went from this place straight into the presence of the Father, only to come back 3 days later under His own divine power.

He is your necessary Savior. Rethink this thing.

Answer 3

Apparently Jesus. But did he die for sins not yet commited? Obviously. So why did God create a world where sins would be commited? AND why are we still commiting? Is it intended to learn so called lessons? To evolve up the learning ladder. So why then do christians try to live such perfect lives, with no mistakes? I know exactly what im trying to say. Whether it came out ok is another story.

Answer 4

Maybe he was not given the release, he expected but this does not mean GOD's plans of cleansing, did not transpire and the story you are asking about has a long definition, but I am going to try and simplify. Adam was GOD's son, through blood because GOD direct breath was given to him, however we all know Adam did not obey, therefore he had to be removed from the garden, and sin came into the earth therefore, GOD because he loved his family so much he decided they did not deserve to be left in sin, and to die. So he created a solution for the problem, or better yet when GOD made the world he already had the solution for death and sin, however it did not take affect until Jesus presence, Now we must look back at the beginning when Jesus was being created into a human, because I believe Jesus was here in the begining, because GOD say's I knew you before you were formed, now looking back when his mother became pregant, GOD blessed Mary his Mother with Jesus, not thru a man, But thru the Holy spirit which is a direct line of blood from GOD,. so with this being said .... Jesus was totaly obediant to GOD regardless of his feelings, and emotions, or the power that GOD had given him, therefore it say's in the Bible it pleased him, meaning GOD for those horrible things to happen, it does not say it pleased Jesus, and with Jesus obediance from GOD we were saved thru the blood of Jesus, with the blood of GOD and Now they are one!

Answer 5

Jesus is God in the flesh . God the Father , God the Son and God the Holy Spirit . The only way the believer sins could be paid for is by some one who is sinless , holy , and perfect which can only be God. Through God infinite Mercy for us he made that payment for any who hear his true word and trust ,obey and believe in Jesus . Jesus didn't have to die on the cross , and let human kind be sentenced to hell for their many sins . Jesus cry was like " How can you let me go through this ?!!! ,why don't you help me ?!!! But he couldn't . This shows his infinite mercy .

Answer 6

I can challenge that. The circumstances of his birth and death are quite irrelevent, the churches use it to affirm that we are constant sinners. Sorry, but people do not need church to know right from wrong. People do not need church to save their souls,... after all the churches told us that He died for our sins. People never have to be sure of God or Christ. It is the greatest law ever uttered by the living Christ. It's called the "Eternal Sin". The only unforgivable sin is denying the Holy Spirit. If you do not truly know what the Holy Spirit really is, it's the God given eternal spirit inside you,---->your Soul!!!!

Undestand that and you'll understand everything in a new light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin

Answer 7

Oh no, you do not understand! He cried out, "MY GOD, MY GOD, why hast thou forsaken me?"

He did not say Father! He refered to Him as His God! Jesus never expected His Father to set Him free as He could have done that for Himself! He cried this out because God had turned His eyes away from Jesus and that was the first time Jesus truly ever felt the absence of His Father. It was a humbling moment for the Lord, in flesh. That allowed the Lord to experience what it is like when we cannot feel God! That is why He cried out, MY GOD and not, MY Father!

I hope this helps with your understanding.

Answer 8

Two views on the "Father, why have you forsaken me" he could of said this to fullfill scripture...or that Gods punishment was upon him..therefore the Father would not dwell with sin. Though this does not refute the fact that Jesus died for sins...

if you ignore God chances are you might have eternity to think about it.

Answer 9

When He said that on the cross God couldn't look upon Him because He carried the sins of those who believe upon Himself. God hates sin and doesn't like to see it. Part of the Jewish sacrificial system involved placing the sins of the people upon a goat and releasing it to the wilderness (where we get the term scapegoat). That same system also required a blood sacrifice of animals because the shedding of blood was required for the remission of sins. There's also the moment with Moses and the Israelites in the desert. The people were complaining and God sent serpents to punish them. After people were getting bit by the serpents for awhile, Moses was told by God to place a serpent covered in bronze and place it on a high pole for all to see. Those who looked upon it were healed of their bites and the snakes no longer bothered them. All of these moments were forerunners of what was to be expected of Jesus on the cross. He became the ultimate and perfect sacrifice for mankind. After His sacrifice, because He could of come down if He wanted to, there was no need for the blood sacrifices of animals of long ago. He was seen by God as the last and acceptable sacrifice for forgiveness of sins. The wages of sin is death and Jesus paid it for those who accept it. To do that He had to have the sins of many placed upon Him and pay the price of death that was required. So, to make a long story short (too late). When Jesus was dying on the cross, He noticed that God the Father had turn His face from Him. Feeling this He cries out "My God, my God why have you forsaken Me?" Jesus, in the eyes of God, had become sin and God had to turn His face from Him. Jesus took the penalty of death by becoming sin before God. Now all who suffer the burden of sin can have relief by turning to He hangs upon the cross.

Answer 10

Look if you were in his position. He was in extreme agony and pain. Dangling from a peice of wood by nails in his hands and feet with a rope holding him up. You wouldn't expect him to laugh and smile.

Though, I doubt he actually said that. It is possible it was a misinterpretation or mistranslation of the original text as stated in some books.

EDIT: If I might add... in one of the psalms it does state "O God, why have you forsaken me"; he might have been just quoting the scriptures.