Hillary said we should put science before ideology (meaning morals), do you agree?

Question

Hitler did.

"Hillary Clinton said today that science, not narrow ideology, should drive our national research agenda, and pledged to lift the ban on ethical embryonic stem cell research."
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/view/?id=8151

The irrefutable fact is that Hitler was driven by evoltion. Don't you guys ever put down the propaganda?

http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/submissions/hitler.htm

The swastika was a sign of his new religion which was driven by evolutionism.

"It should be recognized that no amount of scientific comparison can be substituted for personal value judgments of good versus bad or wrong versus right". (Truitt 1975) It has often been said that to comment on moral values is beyond the limits of science, for example: "thus we conclude that the whole area of moral judgments lies outside science". (Hodgson 1975)

How does science have morals? Unless the person using science has morals, i.e ideology.

Answer 1

There is nothing "ethical" about experimenting with embryos.

Hillary and Hitler with the same idea. Why am I not surprised?

Answer 2

Two ways to think for this one:

Increase in science, leads to increase in technology, which leads to an increase in communication, which is the main cause of social distress. So technology should improve awareness, and bring about more justice.

However, because the system we live in, this may create a larger barrier between the classes, because the technology may only aid the wealthy and control the poor, and thus increase corruption.

So its a bit of a double-edged sword.

Summary: I'm not too sure.

Answer 3

I don't think she said that. If she did I would love to see a supporting link. If she didn't you are lying. What does that say about your ideology (meaning morals)?

Ideology is not the same as morals. So even if she did say that you are misinterpreting her statement. If you are purposefully misinterpreting her then you are lying. What does that say about your ideology (meaning morals)?

Furthermore, Hitler was an ideologist. That is why he invaded the USSR when he shouldn't have. That's why he killed Jews and despised Slavs. That's why he had sympathy for the British.

Answer 4

Ethical rules are often subjective based on the ideal of the people at hand. So long as there are virtues to be found in science people will pursue them regardless.

Answer 5

I don't agree that she meant placing science before morals.

Ideology and morals are NOT synonymous.

Are the morals observed by a Christian the same morals observed by a Satanist?

This question is totally off base.

Answer 6

Dave,
I havent kept up real well on Hillary , I guess I have to go to her web-site and see what is being said .
The election isnt till 2008 , so we have plenty of time to decide .

Answer 7

I dont think I have every agreed with one thing that lady said. and no I dont agree with this eitehr, and the fact Hitler agreed should tell us all where we are with that lady.
God tells us that all science is false if it goes contrary to His word and we are to run from it. There you go God tells us right from wrong not the clintons or anyone else. Look at the imoorality and stuff in their own life. SHe stands by a man that was so unfaithful for her, and flaunted to the whole world about what a immormal man he is. None of us wanted to daily hear about his horrid sex life. Here he was married and having sex, including oral sex with other women, and from a positon of power too. That is sin at its finest. I remember my children were little when this was going on, and walked in once on the news and my little 6 yr old says MOMMY WHATS ORAL SEX?? How dare that man put this country in this position? and all that live in it. He was too young to discuss any of this. and yet we were in that position becuse ol Bill couldnt keep his zipper up. This man with no control was to run a country. What would happen if he had sex with some other world politician that led to war? HE put this country in a precarious position with all of that, and ol Hilllery was right there for it all, smiling her way thru it smugly God says to abhore sin and we do, we who love Him.
I love her it takes a village thing> these are the kinds of ppl we want to raise our kids or tell us how??? I think not. PPL, we gotta wake up . and stand up for God and all you know. Dont let these ppl run us or this country. If they cant use control, he can they be mature enuff to run a country? Bill set himself up to be blackmailed and thats a security risk for this country. YEt, noone said or did too much, and ppl still act like they revere the cintons today. Well, God will dealw ith them both and others like them.
science, even true science, can never replaced Gods plan for all of us on this earth. He made the science, He made the world and all in it. He alone knows everything, and how He says to live is how we are to live Hilllery or bill cant save you or deliver you or heal you. So we better be careful where we place our loyalty. amen

Answer 8

*rolls eyes*
No, Hitler did'nt. He was a devout christian.
That is an irrefutable fact.
And it is because of his religion that the Nazi party was not only formed, but organized like a church.
But by all means, continue to lie to yourself. Just don't do it here. Most of us are FAR to intelligent to fall for such balderdash.

Answer 9

More or less, and ideology doesn't means morals. I dont agree on experimentation on humans, unless they agree to be experimented with.

Answer 10

Ideology does not mean morals except in your mind.