could any one explain to me what is the trinity providing where Jesus talked about the trinity in the bible .?

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I'm a muslim and i believe in all prophets,and i believe that Jesus PBUH is a prophet not God .I believe that there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messanger,and i believe that the bible was interpolated,and it is man made bible. 'i believe in the bible and in the Tawrah but not this corrupted one that you got ,but I believe in the one revealed to Jesus and Moses PBUT . the books you got now are revised by your highest eminent scholars .(could God's words be revised!!!!!) .Anyway,i'll accept the verses that you sent to me,and i'll answer all of them.First you said :"I and my Father are one". (John 10:30) .we need to understand this verse from it's context ,so read (john 1:23) and you will notice that Jesus PBUH doesn't mean that he is and God are one physically,but he means that they are one in terms of purpose and aim .

And if we accept this verse as a proof that Jesus is God ,so you should accept that even the disciples of Jesus are also Gods as proven in the next verse :""I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me""(John 17:20,21).
so even the disciples are Gods also .For the second verse :"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". .I have just answer it just read my previous posts.For the third verse ,it is not jesus PBUH words therefore i'll not accept it,but if you want me to discuss it with you explain it to me,i know that it means the trinity but there is no trinity because jesus said in (Mark 12:29) "the lord our God is one lord"

,and in (deutronomy 6:4)"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone! ,so nothing that proves the trinity .the trinity is man made .And now let me give you a verse from the Holy Quran which proves that the bible is corrupted .God said in the Holy Quran chapter 2(al-baqara) verse79::Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
here is the link if you want to read the Holy Quran :http://islamtomorrow.com/downloads/noblequran.exe
read what God tells you :

Quran) Surah 3. The Family Of 'Imran, The House Of 'Imran:chapter 64.__ Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will). Free Quran : http://islamtomorrow.com/downloads/noblequran.exe

Answer 1

( the trinity is Father Son Holy spirit)


the Father/ God Allah Jehova
the Son/Jesus
and the Holy Ghost/ God's Spirit and when you die this spirit leaves your body and returns to God.

your free choice:
Jesus was sent by the Father that who so
ever believeth in Him shall be saved
it your choice not to believe and you will face God to explain why you did not choose to believe in his Son Jesus for the redemtion of sin.

can you say that you have the freedom of choice from your coran or does it say that your dont have a choice but to believe what was written in it by a man named mohamadd?

Answer 2

I even have never seen a Christian (i.e., a Trinitarian) use your mathematical fashions. I even have purely ever seen it with non-Christians attempting to disprove the Trinity. And, you're mis-information the word "man or woman." That word no longer skill what it did while that word grow to be first coined hundreds of years in the past. Now, a man or woman is a "human beings" (singular). for sure, 3 human beings won't be able to be one, so, that word is no longer functional. Language modifications over the years! As for the a million Cor 8:6 - shall we attempt a various translation: "they say—returned, fairly rightly—that there is purely one God the father, that each and every thing comes from him, and that he needs us to stay for him. additionally, they say that there is purely one grasp—Jesus the Messiah—and that each and every thing is for his sake, which comprise us. sure. this is real." So, there is one God, and, there's a grasp (or Lord). that does no longer recommend they're 2 separate issues! there is an expression "Lord and grasp." that could desire to help with the English. you won't be able to use an mathematical expression to describe the Trinity. this is why we don't do it. God is One. the father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are One. Why is that so confusing to understand? Christians have frequently used that for almost 2000 years!

Answer 3

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Answer 4

Why would it be written in the Holy Bible the LORD thy God is One LORD?

In Hebrew that would be the Yahweh thy Elohim Echad Yahweh. See? Yahweh is the Name of God. El Elyon is Gods Name.

Then why is it written in the Koran that Gods name is Allah? When Allah isn't a name but a Title. ALH is old & goes way back & is a title of the Diety. Just like God is in English.


All that is important for someone to believe is that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. He is the resurrection & the Life. If that makes Jesus God so be it. But Jesus came to earth & was one of us. And He is the Son of God, baptized by John the Baptist. The Father God said, "This is my beloved Son in whom I AM well pleased." And the Holy Spirit was there in the form of a dove & also anointed Jesus. So Jesus, being a man filled with the Holy Ghost went into the desert & was tempted of the devil. He didn't fail like the first Adam, So. Jesus was sinless. The wages of sin is death. Jesus bore our sins on the cross. But being sinless, Jesus raised from the dead. For us.


When Jesus talked about the Trinity is at the end of Matthew when Jesus said that we are to preach the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them in the Name of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Name is singular. To me this is the Name Yahweh Elohim. God the Father, Son & Holy Ghost.

Answer 5

Jesus did not speak directly of the Holy Trinity it is a way that Christians refer to the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as being one in purpose.

Answer 6

If you go through the book presently available, its internal evidence does not suggest it to be book of God but written by so many coauthers.Trinity is the fantastical idea introduce by Saint Paul due to his pagan background.He want to create a compromise situation with Romans believing in hundreds of gods and devils.I think he got relief for the Romans bringing the number to three only.

Answer 7

The trinity is, God the Father, His son Jesus Christ, and The Holy Ghost.

Answer 8

John made it very clear that everything Jesus said and did wasn't recorded. People like to point to the fact that Jesus during his earthly life didn't say anything about homosexuality, they take this to mean he was okay with it. Do you agree?

Consider this text:

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Here we have Jesus (who as I explained in my response to another of your questions most definitely claimed to be God which is why he was accused of blasphemy), the holy spirit and the father in heaven mentioned in the same text.

Answer 9

The reality is Jesus was in fact making the statement 'the Father and I are one' in the sense that we are all one with the Father. God is in everyone. The question: Who is God? The answer: I am (that I am).

Jesus never once said or implied that he was part of the 'Trinity Godhead' meaning eternal and everlasting. When he said 'before Abraham was, I am,' he's saying what I just said. We were all part of God from the beginning.

The idea that Jesus is 'the Word' comes from John and John alone. Christians don't bother to notice no other Gospel and no other epistle mentions this. Nor do they bother to notice that John was a Greek and a neo-Platonist, a philosopher, and was writing of the 'Logos' in the sense of Plato.

Bottom line, you can believe Jesus is God if you wish, that's your business. You can believe he was a prophet of Allah if you wish, that's your business. But don't presume that what you believe is 'truth' in the sense that it must be believed by all, because that's simply ignorant and erroneous. Jesus himself said not to preach in his name. It's quite ironic that people don't bother to acknowledge the things he said that might contradict what you already want to believe.

Answer 10

Can physics take a stab at this? The Trinity is like states of water -
Water can be water (liquid)
Water can be gas (steam)
Water can be solid (ice)
You can have all three of them in the same pot on the stove, existing as ONE thing (water) and still having very different properties.
God the Father is the solid ice - the Foundation, solid, the start of it all
God the Son is the water - able to change His nature to fit his container (INFINITE GOD in a FINITE human body)
God the Holy Spirit is the steam - able to reach and expand outward into whatever vessel it's held into - aka the Church and it's members.