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I'm college educated and well read. I'm self educated on matters such as evolution vs creation and have taught extensively on this and other matters of science. I know several Christians who think deeply and seriously about life, science and ethics. They are quite intelligent and many have college degrees in things other than philosophy.

Honestly then (and by that I mean with thought and tact) why do many of you on here bash Christians as uneducated, brainwashed idiots.

I don't want to here from Christians on this. I know your opinions. I want to hear from people who actually feel this way.

2007-07-06 04:09:00 · 16 answers · asked by todd s 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I know you want to hear from people who actually feel this way... but I don't think they are uneducated idiots. My own mother graduated Summa *** Laude from a major university and she is a very devout Catholic (converted from Lutheran). She lives and breathes her faith, never preaching to me (other than occasionally saying she'll pray for me).

Brainwashed, yes... I do believe religion is a form of brainwashing and even the most intelligent person can be brainwashed given the right circumstances. My mother was raised Lutheran by a very devout woman from the time she was born. Children are very susceptible to brainwashing... believing what they are told by trusted adults. That how pedophiles prey on small children as well.

So while my mother grew into a very intelligent adult, she was brainwashed as a young child to believe in religion by her mother, whom she has deified. My mother (and the majority of Christians I know) is the type of person who believes everything she is told as long as it fits her worldview... and religion fits is perfectly. She NEEDS religion. She is scared of the world and religion eases her fears.

I, too, was raised Lutheran, but as I grew older, I read more and more. I'm not the type to believe everything I'm told... I'm a skeptic. I read everything presented by both sides on every issue then I make up my own mind. In that respect, my mother and I are on a very different wave length.

I'm okay with death being final and nothing after that... my mother yearns to see her mother, father, and husband again, so she clings to the notion of heaven.

I don't condemn her for it... it's part of who she is. She's a smart person who believes a mythology I don't. Neither of us is right or wrong...that's just how it is.

2007-07-06 04:16:04 · answer #1 · answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6 · 1 2

I have felt this way before. Usually it is when Christians who completely ignore science, sociology, ethics, and science come up to me or someone like me and complain that we are going to hell because we won't accept the circular logic that the Bible is true because the Bible says so. Or, even worse is when my Christian friends bicker amongst each other over political/ethics issues, such as abortion or suicide, and end up calling each other "not true Christians" because they have different interpretations and learning about the same religion.

I understand that not all Christians are this way, thankfully. But the single greatest cause of atheism are uneducated Christians.

2007-07-06 11:18:54 · answer #2 · answered by awitelin_tsta 2 · 1 1

Being 'self educated' what gives you the right to teach anybody. Without actual papers to show you are qualified to teach, and from an actual college not some nut ball Christian cult, you have no business teaching anyone.

It is people like you who keep Christians away from actual education, and just pass on your 'self taught' bullcrap about science and evolution. I do not include creationism because it is an absurd and laughable adaption of the even more ridiculous bible.

2007-07-06 12:28:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I'm a Norse heathen and have been for years now, Todd, but I grew up among Fundamentalist Pentecostals, some of whom---like my father and favorite uncle---were educated, intelligent, articulate, wise and moderate people who nonetheless believed the most absurd things imaginable in order to try to twist recognized, established science around into some kind of lame, half-a**ed support for a literal interpretation of texts that a KID should have been able to recognize as metaphor, allegory, and myth.

I just don't get it.

On here, I generally try to be polite, non-judgemental, and allow others the right to seek and find their own spiritual understandings and gain comfort from the beliefs that seem right to them. But sometimes, I'll admit, when someone is spouting the same kind of nonsense my otherwise brilliant father used to force himself, against all evidence and reason, to believe . . . and for the umpteenth time . . . while not allowing me (or other heathens, pagans, Wiccans, spiritualists, or atheists) the same freedom and respect I try to proffer THEM . . .

Well. It's hard not to get a *little* snarky.

2007-07-06 11:46:22 · answer #4 · answered by Boar's Heart 5 · 0 1

There was a survey done, and here are the results. Stating that Christian's may not be as educated, wasn't just pulled out of the air, there was research done to confirm it.

On almost all the beliefs that are central to Christianity, there is a general pattern with:
* Higher levels of belief among people with no college education and lower levels of belief among those with postgraduate education.

2007-07-06 11:17:42 · answer #5 · answered by Sapere Aude 5 · 1 1

Darwin at the time of writing the Origin of Species remained a theist, convinced of the existence of God as a First Cause.

In his later life, Darwin was frequently asked about his religious views. He went as far as saying that he did "not believe in the Bible as a divine revelation", but was always insistent that he was agnostic and had "never been an atheist".


WHEN Charles Darwin advanced his theory of evolution he conceded that life may have been “originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one.” -The Origin of Species, by Charles Darwin, Mentor edition, 1958, p. 450.

2007-07-06 11:19:32 · answer #6 · answered by nevrasleep 2 · 2 0

I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ Muslim back ground. They call me Christians because I am a follower of Jesus. I did not changed religion. I became a believer in the only true God.
Christianity became like another religion. Muslims go to musk and Christians go to church. they are bunch of religious people and far from relationship with the LORD..

2007-07-06 11:26:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am a christian, I think we are treated this way, especially on this forum, because that is how the majority of us sound. Also because many of the christians here do the same thing to other people.

2007-07-06 11:23:12 · answer #8 · answered by akschafer1 3 · 0 0

Religion is brainwashing. Religion puts fear fear into people that make them believe something bad will happen if they dont live a certain way, dont donate money to the church, dont help others, etc.

People use religion as an escape from reality and instead of facing there problems they would rather hide from them and pray to god that they just magically go away. I notice atheists will think logically about what is going on and will solve the problem without hiding behind something false like religion.

Christians always seem to want to judge others. They seem to believe that non christians are lower people who need to be converted because they will go to hell if they dont become Christian. There minds are clouded with religion.

2007-07-06 11:20:26 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

I have much respect for Ken Miller. As a scientist, he is a brilliant man. I don't understand why he would choose to remain Catholic despite it's transparent absurdity. Nevertheless, a good scientist he remains.

But Ken Miller does not represent the majority. The majority are quite ignorant, and anyone who is as educated as you claim to be should already know that.

2007-07-06 11:19:04 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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