for atheists ONLY....?

Question

if someone wants to convince you that God does exist what proves would convince you the most?

Answer 1

I'd rather have god do it personally.

If someone else wanted to prove that he existed to me, I think they should first prove it to themselves.

Answer 2

If someone wants to convince me that THEIR God exists the best starting point would be to first convince me they KNOW THEIR God exists, and that they KNOW all the Acts they attribute to THEIR God actually ORIGINATE with THEIR God!

Is that too much to ask?

Answer 3

I doubt that there is any physical proof on earth that we will find during this lifetime. I will lead a good life without religion and I am completely confident that the Abrahamic God of the Bible does not exist. I will find the truth when I die.

Since we are speaking hypothetically: I would say God would have to coexist with humans as he supposedly did in Genesis with Adam and Eve. I would like to see Him interact with human beings as He reportedly did throughout the Bible. Not with one human being or in a person's dream but in a situation where witnesses can provide a testimony to having seen Him. Not once, either, but on a regular basis.

Answer 4

Hmmm...single males would start creating/reproducing on their own; actually, single anything could all by it's lonesome.
Humans understanding of 'perfect' would be different-How else can you explain a perfect deity creating anything in the first place?
Rules and laws would be consistent and a 2,000 year old book would be far more reliable if we were to believe everything it said.

Edit: Oh, yeah. History would need to change. The Holocaust would never have happened..or the Crusades or Inquisition....Alexander the Great wouldn't have had to been such a war-monger to become 'great'; there wouldn't have been wars, or poverty, or the Black Plague, etc...plenty of horrible things have happened w/o any intervention on any deities behalf...
Seriously, no offense intended towards Don H's response but I really can not imagine that any deity would give you, or anyone individual, an out of body experience but do nothing to prevent the previously mentioned atrocities from happening.

Answer 5

For this atheist, we would have to begin with a proper definition of the realm where God is said to exist.

Two important philosophies of the ancient Greeks have had a profound impact on Christianity. The first is Plato's Idealism, which maintained that the idea of an object was more "noble" than the object itself. For example, a stick of wood can be consumed by fire, but the idea of wood was thought to be eternal. The second important Greek philosophy is Aristotle's Solipsism, which asserts that each person's subjective experience is real and that the physical realm is an illusion created by each person's mind. Jesus Christ, all His disciples, and all the men who wrote and edited the Bible were undoubtedly all Solipsistic Idealists.

About 390 AD, St. Augustine invented the concept of the immortal human spirit (soul). Augustine combined Idealism and Solipsism and asserted that God loans each new human being a tiny piece of His own immortal essence at the beginning of their life. The experience of having lived causes that speck of God's essence to grow into a human soul, which is returned to God upon the death of the human. The triune philosophy of Idealism, Solipsism, and Soul dominated western civilization for 1200 years.

Around 1590, Galileo Galilei began conducting physics experiments which discredited Aristotle's unsubstantiated Solipsism. The physical realm is absolutely real and Galileo, followed by Isaac Newton, proved it. Educated men began to doubt whether subjective experience was real and Rene Descartes introduced the philosophy of dualism, which asserted that both subjective experience and the physical realm were real. The Church responded by arresting, examining under torture, and brutally executing any who dared to think for themselves. The last person burned at the stake for the heresy of materialism was a Mexican medical doctor who, in 1850 insisted that a living brain was the source of conscious awareness.

At the beginning of the twentieth century, the electroencephelograph (EEG) was invented and proved beyond all doubt that the source of all perceptions, memories, thoughts, and emotions are the neurological structures of a living human brain. This completely discredited Plato's Idealism because when a brain dies, so do the ideas it contains. The unsupported philosophical speculations of Idealism and Solipsism were utterly demolished by science, which necessarily requires physical evidence to support its conclusions. If Idealism and Solipsism are false, then St. Augustine's contrived human soul is utterly impossible.

Modern educated people understand that the objective (physical) realm is absolutely real and that it contains all the matter and energy in the universe. Human senses are capable of detecting only an extremely limited sample of objective reality. Such sensory data is used by our brain and modulated by our own expectations to construct the mental illusion commonly called subjective experience. Although the ancients imagined subjective experience actually was reality (solipsism), modern people understand the only practical way to alter future outcomes is to cause an actual change in objective (physical) reality.

As an atheist, I am somewhat unusual in that I am willing to happily concede that God continues exist where he always has, in the subjective experience of those who believe in Him. What has happened, between the ancient past and modern times, is that humanity has changed the working definition of reality. We now understand that our ancestors were profoundly mistaken and that subjective experience is not reality. Those who assert that God exists often point to personal annecdotal subjective evidence, which only illustrates their naive ignorance of the true nature of reality. To support their assertion that God is real, modern Christians must provide tangible evidence of His existence in objective (physical) reality. In 51 years of searching, I have never seen one shred of evidence supporting God's existence in objective (physical) reality and that is precisely why I remain an atheist to this day.

Answer 6

This is an open forum. Anybody can answer.

Atheists don't believe in God. I don't think anything you do would convince them that there is one. I had to change my definition of "God" to "the natural universe" and not "a supernatural being", but then I still am not an atheist. Also, you still have to define what you mean by "God" to them - it doesn't mean the same thing to all people, as my example clearly illustrates.

Answer 7

If there is a God, let him come to us and fix the problems of the world. Let poverty, hunger and suffering end.

Talk to us, and guide us in the way a perfect father would guide his children.

Instead of flooding or burning the world, help it for once.

If there is a God, then he's a vindictive sob with no more caring than a drunk father who abandons his kids alongside the road, after slapping them around a lot.

Answer 8

I'd have to meet him, face to face, and he'd have to convince me, of his true existence.
No one, less than a god, can convince me that there is such a being.

Answer 9

If god could fill in the gaps that we humans have not be able to perfect or come up with and that we could not have an explanation for it. By this I mean helping out ranging from poverty down to mental health and in between.

Answer 10

Once in a chat room I suggested a good test. Have God deliver takeout chicken within the next 30 minutes. God never showed up.