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2007-07-05 23:40:27 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

hwy reese ever heard of Ad hominem?

2007-07-05 23:45:02 · update #1

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how about NO God that scares people because then they can't blame the unexplained on God or Satan

2007-07-05 23:42:51 · answer #1 · answered by Love Exists? 6 · 6 0

I always wondered about the creationst / evolution argument. How does Creationism explain Northern Europeans, Arabs, Southern Europeans, Indians, Mongol, Chinese, Japanese, North African and Middle to Soouth African people all looking so different? This is a real question. Were there twenty Adam and Eves? One of each for the Japanese, one of each for the Northern Europeans? How can you explain how all these people look so different. When God created Adam and Eve perhaps their descendents evolved?

2007-07-06 00:00:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Honestly, because they are sons of inbred country folk, and they know (yes they do) that there are circles of intelligent thinkers that will make their idiot draft dodging sons, and drunken slutty daughters literally NOTHING in the business world. So basically, they aren´t required to educate themselves or their children, because they are already rich and powerful, and something like evolution (humans can too) is just too foreign, ´cuz they like to choose a religion to have a backing for the wars, famine, and disease that they spread worldwide, but especially in their own inner cities. It just goes to show how dumb some people are. For example, I would want my children to get the best education, not some Bible explanation of why scientific things are.

2007-07-05 23:50:24 · answer #3 · answered by nassim420 3 · 2 1

Some people confuse 'survival of the fittest', with 'natural selection'. When you meet someone who advocates there own survival, above the welfare of others, natural defense mechanisms kick in. I don't trust these people, for good reason.

I'm a Christian, and I also understand much of the Theory that Darwin proposed. But when it is implied that I am only flesh and blood, the hair stands up on the back of my neck.

2007-07-05 23:48:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

is there something scary to say that they are just a theory!!!?
iam not scared of it an deven some of it make saense , but it is so sad how ppl can easily loose the believe in God , who created everything.

2007-07-06 02:14:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Lord, give me strength. If what you want to see is tortured answers to simple questions, come to "Religion and Spirtuality" and get an eye-full.

Let me grab hold of myself here and see if I can proffer some reasonable explanation to your question.

The facially simple answer is that a lie, in and of itself, is scary because it portrays deceit, the intentional act of deceiving.

And so, if an entire theory is a "lie," that must mean there is a pretty huge conspiracy behind it, given all the science and scientists in support of the theory. Possible, just possibly, the theory of evolution, as currently articulated, is wrong either in some particulars or just in general. I DOUBT it, but it is possible. The whole idea of a scientfic theory is to be open to being wrong, to be subject to change.

But being wrong doesn't mean it is a lie, whether from the lips of Satan or your pastor.

But the scary idea is that all those proponents of the theory have somehow conspired to tell a lie. Usually, a lie is told for a purpose (I'm leaving pathological liars out of this) so what, then, is the purpose of this lie?

Is it to make people turn away from the Bible? That can't be it, because there are plenty of believers who accept evolution for the science it is, and accept the Bible for the inspiration it offers. I'm one of 'em. Matter of fact, plenty of people working on evolution go to church, the synagog, the mosque.

I appreciate that you ask, "Why do some..." instead of "all" or "most." And my guess is that these are basically the same folks who take the Bible or other religious text SO literally that anything not OF it must therefore be AGAINST it and, by definition, be a work of the guy in the red suit and I don't mean Santa.

I'm not sure exactly what there is in the theory that is so scary -nothing "jumps out" (heh, heh) to me. Perhaps it is the fact that the creation stories of holy text tell a different story than evolution does. This is odd, to me, because the biblical account has "stories within stories," the order of creation is different from one chapter to another. Even the creation of woman differs from place to place; in one place, she came from Adam's rib; in another, "God created THEM." The only explanation for this I've heard from extreme fundamentalists is that one passage is a sort of general statement of what happened, and the other fills in with more detail. As though one chapter says, "Here's WHAT happened," and the other says "Here's HOW." Unfortunately, the scripture ITSELF doesn't say that's what the deal is, so I can't go with that explanation. What makes more sense is the finding of biblical scholars, who point to different authors whose work is combined in a sort of scrap-book style, reflecting different points of view. Far as I'm concerned, the theory of evolution might just as well be a footnote to, or a chapter of, Genesis.

And so, the psychology of fear that some folks carry around must have some other origin, and my guess is that early childhood has something to do with it. If, from the earliest days, kids were made to fear Satan and regard the Bible as the only source of every truth, and if they were punished or otherwise sanctioned for wondering about any other possibilities, it would make sense for them to grow up with those ideas and express their discomfort with anything else by calling the other stuff a "lie." And it would make sense that the anxiety would appear in many places -not just condemnation of "evolution." And indeed, it DOES appear in many other places. At its worst, I see extreme fundamentalists judging their own "goodness" by comparison to all the "badness" out there. And evolution vs. creationism, as a hot topic among school systems in certain areas, is very present in public thought; it is therefore the obvious target, a "proof" that Satan is at work in the world.

The died-in-the-wool fundamentalist would allow, I think, that individuals working on the theory are not, themselves, liars. They may even be good people. But the theory ITSELF is a lie, which true believers must work to rebuke for the sake of everyone's soul (or something like that). Sort of like all those dedicated folks at the National Security Agency and Pentagon who actually BELIEVED there were weapons of mass destruction. The whole thing was a fabrication -a lie- designed to advance a poltical agenda. I don't buy that, either, but the idea is close enough. ASt least in that case, the lie (if there was one) had a purpose, a reason. Can't find anything like that for evolution.

I suppose that one might argue that evolution also sort of devalues human life, because it pegs humans as just one of the ornaments on a bracnh of an evolutionary tree. While I've read many scientific items that attempt to remind us of our very minor niche in the grand scale of time and life in general, I've yet to read anything that says we as individuals are unimportant -truth to tell it is ALL important.

OK, I've been trying to scare MYSELF looking at evolution through various lenses and from different points of view, and durn it, I'm just not scared, and can't see any lies. Hopefully, someone who really IS nervous about it will be able to articulate the reasoning behind their anxiety and the logic of calling it a lie. I may not AGREE with them, but if their argument is logical and reasonable within its OWN frame of reference, I'll understand it.

Until then, I'm looking at it and find nothing scary and no evidence that it is a lie. I'm hoping somebody can explain it.

2007-07-06 00:36:39 · answer #6 · answered by JSGeare 6 · 1 0

Evolution destroys the whole Bible creation myth. The whole Adam and Eve thing falls apart if evolution is true. Evolution is even a bigger threat than the Helio Centric Solar system of Kepler was.
Yes, it literally scares the pee out of them. The Believers are so afraid of it that they can not even allow themselves to learn enough about it to argue with anything except lies or insults.
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I notice more than one or two Christians here claiming to understand something about the theory, and promptly misinterpreting it. Unfortunately I can not even put this down to *willful* ignorance.

2007-07-05 23:51:04 · answer #7 · answered by ? 5 · 4 1

Holy Bible is allegorically all about evolution (maturity):
babe-->child-->man-->perfect man-->God is not a man.

It's all "allegory" & "mystery" to solve in both covenants.

Hebrew babes, or Baby-lon folk, know only milk-y way.
They are unable to discern law = "both good and evil",
and that both good and evil obviously ends with "evil".
So also cathoholic priests who end up as pedophiles.

Sadly, both creationists & evolutionists are as children.
Child gets tossed to & fro by winds(spirits) of doctrine.
Child differs nothing from know not servants(prophets).

God said: let us make "man" (not babe nor child nor men).
God said: let us "make" man (not create hypocrites, fools).
God said: let "us" make man (God being an us, not a them)

When I became a man, I put away childish things (laws).

Christ("is the end of the law") is the "made perfect" man.
The author of eternal salvation became "us", of them/us.
For as in Adam(male & female them) all die = extinction.

Allegory: by the using of ordinances (laws) "all perish".
Wake Up and smell the Law & Odor: the smell of death.
NT Law is as DEADLY as OT Law(imputes sin & death).

Evolution: Jesus(babe, child, man)-->Christ-->God-ward.
No man is justified by the law in the sight of God: evident.

POINT: God (Grace) is not a man that he should lie (law).

His Grace cannot lie(law) nor die(law). Law Law does both.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH YOU ALL. AMEN.

2007-07-06 00:26:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

When you are an idiot, smart people are scary. And when you base your believes on a book, science is scary.

2007-07-06 04:05:17 · answer #9 · answered by Take it from Toby 7 · 0 0

Nothing wrong with evolution until someone tries to say that evolution means there is no purpose and no designer to life.

Science has abandoned cause and effect and has embraced random chance as an "explained" cause. "It was caused by chance" now appears to be an acceptable explanation as to how something comes about.

2007-07-05 23:45:06 · answer #10 · answered by Dameon T 2 · 0 2

those that consider evolution a "lie" clearly have not understood it too well, or have not studied it at all

2007-07-05 23:51:12 · answer #11 · answered by town_cl0wn 4 · 3 0

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