If the bible is proof that God exists, then is the Odyssey proof that Cyclops exist?

Question

Era Nocturna: why not?

hpathik: LMAO!!! There's plenty of non-biblical proof for the existence of God?? Please enlighten me, where can I find this other proof?

jiloth: you're killing me. You're quoting the bible in answer to a question questioning the validity of the bible??

F'sho: tell me how its a bad analogy

Answer 1

I am glade you asked this. Just as many things in my life prove there is a God.And many archaeological digs gives us proof of history as described in the bible (not many but some) Here is your proof that indeed a cyclops as described in the Odyssey lives and breaths.Gesk people and wanting proof all the time is very wearing on me.
As always
Seek,Learn,Discover

Answer 2

--DO YOU NOT ever read what people have said about God & the Bible?
--WOULD YOU be impressed with the following support of God & the Bible?
**dx86-06 Bible ***
Adams, John Quincy: it-1 312
Barth, Karl: w88 2/1 3
Dickens, Charles: jd 5; km 1/97 1
Encyclopedia Americana: la 11
Gandhi, Mohandas K.: kl 16; w86 10/1 16; Lmn 5-6
Goethe, Johann: g03 9/22 31; w96 12/1 17
Heine, Heinrich: ba 3; gm 8; w88 2/1 4
Henry, Patrick: Lmn 5
Jefferson, Thomas: w90 11/1 7
Kant, Immanuel: la 11
Lincoln, Abraham: dg 10; w00 1/15 5; w92 5/15 3; gm 8
Newton, Sir Isaac: si 338; it-1 311; Lmn 5
Phelps, William Lyon: g00 12/22 3; it-1 312
Seward, William H.: g00 12/22 4; gm 8
university journal (China): la 11
Van Dyke, Henry: w92 7/15 3

--DO YOU think those above would testify to any of the Odyssey being true, if so could you find the references, and post them?
--OR WILL you still insist on our one eyed friend?

Answer 3

The bible is no more proof that God exists than the Quran, the Torah or any other book. The proof that God exists can't be found in books. Look at the world around you and you will see proof of the existence of God. The mere fact that we exist is proof of the existence of God. Biology and evolution is only part of the journey, the beginning was something else entirely. That was God.

Answer 4

In a strange way, that IS a possibility. There are major differences between Religious historical liturature and ancient Mythologies, though. It would be better to make the comparison by saying that the Odyssey proves that Odysseus existed! (Please remember that the main Character in the Odyssey is Odysseus.)

The Mythological story of the Odyssey may have some basis in fact, since it is the story of one man's journey home from the Trojan War, which we can date to 1200 BC. Since the journey home was a long one, it isn't illogical to assume that Odysseus could have run into trouble along the way. The war itself had already taken nearly 10 years! On the way home, Odysseus and crew ran into several disasters: shipwreck, seduction by a temptress, capture, rocks, really great music sung by naked women, and a murderous one-eyed giant. Add to the fact that the story is told by, um, SAILORS, and you can easily see where the story would get embellished a little.

Answer 5

The Odessy is merely a poem in which an ordinary man wrote, coming from his own mind, having no experience with a real cyclops, ever.
It's just an account of fiction.
The Bible, however, is a document in which we can beleive in, because we know that it's true, considering that we're God's children.
So, no, the Odessy is NOT proof that a cyclops actually existed.

Answer 6

Well..... If the bible is proof that God Exists.. Then yes I guess there is a Cyclops running around out there somewhere. Unless there isn't. Then I guess the bible would just have to be a book of fables written by man to teach people good lessons in life....

Answer 7

II Timothy 3:16-17 - "ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

The Bible came directly from God, and God used the minds, character, personality and writing style of each of the writers to convey exactly what He wanted to say. You can't possibly hope to understand it until you know the Author personally and that can only be achieved through a salvation experience.

The Odyssey is a story created by a human and has no divine
origin so it proves nothing but that it is a good story.


EDIT: YOU MISSED THE POINT! I KNOW THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD BECAUSE I KNOW THE AUTHOR IN A VERY PERSONAL WAY. WHEN YOU KNOW HIM IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY HIS WORD!

EDIT: THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD. EVERY FOOL WILL SOME DAY HAVE TO FACE UP TO THIS TRUTH WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT!
THE THUMBS DOWN WILL BE REGRETTED THEN! THEY ARE JUST FURTHER PROOF OF HUMAN PUNY UNDERSTANDING WHICH IS FALSE AND DECEITFUL!
ONLY GOD'S VIEW WILL MATTER ON THAT DAY!

Answer 8

No, but it Is EVIDENCE for mastodons and icebergs. But does the Odyssey make predictions? Does it record thousands of years worth of kept promises?

You wanted proof?

- Proving the Existence of God -

THE BEGINNING

If we do indeed exist, there can be only two possible explanations for such a phenomenon. Either we had a beginning or we did not. The Bible says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). The atheist has always maintained that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed in the form of either matter or energy; and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to form, but it has always been. The Humanist Manifesto says, "Matter is self-existing and not created," and that is a concise statement of atheistic belief.

In order to decide whether the theist or atheist is correct we must ask after science to discover what it says regarding this question. In the local 'brane' of the cosmos are a number of galaxies like our own Milky Way. These galaxies are accelerating away from each other with every passing moment. We live in an expanding universe that gets bigger and bigger with every passing day. Now if we suppose that time can run backwards, we could see that all galaxies must come together at a beginning, at a point of universal expansion which scientists call a singularity. This puts the lie to the idea of an eternal universe. It had a beginning.

A second proof is seen in the energy sources that fuel the cosmos. Like all stars, the sun generates its energy by a process known as thermonuclear fusion. In every second, the sun compresses 564 million tons of hydrogen, fusing its components into 560 million tons of helium with 4 million tons of matter released as energy. In spite of that tremendous consumption of fuel, the sun has only used up 2% of the hydrogen it had on the day it was born. This incredible furnace is not unique. Indeed, this process takes place in every single star in the universe, as well as some gas giant planets such as Jupiter in our own solar system.

Now for a simple logical question: Throughout the cosmos there are 25 quintillion stars, each converting hydrogen into helium, thus reducing the total amount of hydrogen existing in the cosmos. Now if everywhere in the cosmos, hydrogen is being consumed, and if that process has been going on 'forever', how much hydrogen should be left? Obviously, the universe should have run out of hydrogen long ago. The fact is, however, that our sun has 98% of its original hydrogen still available.

Hydrogen is the most abundant material in the universe. Everywhere we look in space we can see the hydrogen 21 cm line in the spectrum - a frequency of light only given off by hydrogen. This would not be possible unless we indeed had a beginning.

A third scientific proof that the atheist is wrong is seen in the second law of thermodynamics. In any closed system, things tend to become disordered. If an automobile is never repaired, for example, it will become so disordered that it will eventually cease to run.

Getting 'old' is simple conformity to the second law of thermodynamics. In space, things also get old. Astronomers refer to this aging process as 'heat death'. If the cosmos is "everything that ever was or is or ever will be," as Dr. Carl Sagan was so fond of saying, then nothing can be added to it to improve its order, or to repair it. Even a 'bouncing' universe that expanded and collapsed forever would eventually die because it would lose light and heat with each expansion and rebound.

The atheist's assertion that matter/energy is eternal is scientifically impossible. The biblical assertion that there was indeed a beginning is in complete agreement with scientific principals.

THE CAUSE

If we know that creation has a beginning, we are faced with another logical question - was creation caused or was it not caused? The Bible states, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Not only does the Bible maintain that there was a cause - a creation - but it also tells us what the cause was. It was God. The atheist tells us that "matter is self-existing and not created." If matter had a beginning and yet was uncaused, one must logically maintain that something would have had to come into existence out of nothing. From empty space with no force, no matter, no energy, and no intelligence, matter would have to become existent. Even if this could happen by some strange new process unknown to science today, there is a logical problem: In order to say that matter can come from nothing, we would need to invalidate all scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy, including those of chemistry. Aand conservation of angular momentum would have to be wrong, invalidating all of physics. All of our laws of conservation of electric charge would have to be wrong, invalidating all of electronics. In order to believe matter is uncaused, one has to discard most if not all known laws and principles of science. No reasonable person is going to do this simply to maintain a personal atheistic position.

The atheist's assertion that matter is eternal is wrong. The atheist's assertion that the universe is uncaused and self-existing is also incorrect. The Bible's assertion that there was a beginning which had a cause is supported strongly by the available scientific evidence.

THE DESIGN

If we know that creation had a beginning, and that the beginning had a cause, there is one last question for us to answer - what was this cause? The Bible tells us that God was the cause. We are further told that this God did the causing with planning, reason and logic. Romans 1:20 tells us that we can know who God is "through the things he has made."

The atheist, on the other hand, will try to convince us that we are the product of Chance. Julian Huxley once said: "We are as much a product of blind forces as is the falling of a stone to earth or the ebb and flow of the tides. We have just happened, and man was made flesh by a long series of singularly beneficial accidents."

The subject of design has been one that has been explored in many different ways. For most of us, simply looking at our newborn child is enough to rule out chance. Modern-day scientists like Paul Davies and Frederick Hoyle and others are raising elaborate objections to the use of chance in explaining natural phenomena. A principle of modern science as emerged in the 1980s called "the anthropic principle." The basic thrust of the anthropic principle is that chance is simply not a valid mechanism to explain the atom or life. If chance is not valid, we are constrained to reject Huxley's claim and to realize that we are indeed the product of an intelligent God.

Answer 9

Homer never saw the Cyclops. In fact there is rumors that Homer didn't even write the Odyssey, his students did. Hence it is myth, not historical, because no one claimed to have actually seen it.

Answer 10

Some people think the Dracula stories are proof that vampires exist.
Bible vs Fiction: one is true , one isn't