DAVID SMITH WILL BE PRESIDENT AND KING: April 1844. Joseph Smith prophesies that his unborn child will be called David, and will be "president and king of Israel." (cited in D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy, Salt Lake City, 1994 p 644)
FULFILLED?: The child was called David. However, he was never "president and king of Israel." He died in 1904, at the age of 60, having spent the last 27 years of his life in an insane asylum. He was a member of the Reorganized Church. His highest nominal position in that church was counsellor to the president, but he never actually performed any duties as such, because of his mental condition.
By the way, when Christ returns for His 1000 year reign before the Great White Throne of Judgement, HE will reign forever- not any of the Smiths.
2007-07-05 13:50:54 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The details of his illness are found in the Joseph Smith Jr. Family History web site.
http://www.josephsmithjr.com/david.htm
2007-07-05 13:59:12 · update #1
David Smith, son of the prophet, was institutionalized during the last decades of his life. He was more of a poet and 'muse', and had much of his fathers oratory style, but was also a progressive member who sought changes in the way the church operated and sought to reliagned it with more manistream thought.
A brief outline of his life is found at: http://www.press.uillinois.edu/f98/excerpts/avery/preface.html
2007-07-06 03:54:56 · answer #1 · answered by Dances with Poultry 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hmm, wouldn't it be nice to see how many of the people who have gone through mental institutions of all sorts will actually be strong, decisive, compassionate leaders after the Resurrection? I'm looking forward to it myself, having had a great-uncle afflicted with schizophrenia, but who was a marvelous, witty man with musical talent. Prophecies are conditional on free agency as well, and sometimes the timing is off. What is wrong with having presidents of different populations serving under Jesus Christ in the Millennium? There isn't any prophecy that we shall all as a whole forget what the word "president" means. Have a happy day, and I send you a gummy bear.
2007-07-05 22:48:07 · answer #2 · answered by Cookie777 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
This prophesy and Joseph Smith is like any other religion and their prophets, playing on peoples weakness and pushing their doctrines to anyone they think will listen. Prophesy is for the weak minded and religion is a crutch for people that don't want to deal with the real world.
2007-07-05 21:13:09 · answer #3 · answered by Bill C 1 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Wow...I viewed Arthur's bio...I have erased four times from what I want to say...I will just say that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.
God didn't change His mind though...he lamented. Sometimes, you have to look up the word in Greek or Hebrew to understand the word that is used and the context that it used in.
If you are going to use a quote, please don't use D&C or the BOM as doctrinal quotes. . If all books are open I will start using Doctor Seuss.
Sorry again...
...and stop cutting and pasting your answers unless you are going to fix the spacial errors Arthur...for cryin out loud!
2007-07-05 21:05:45 · answer #4 · answered by Mike M 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
What was Quinn's source for this? If it were a true prophecy, it would have been in the Doctrine & Covenants.
2007-07-06 02:41:31 · answer #5 · answered by mormon_4_jesus 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Joseph Smith never uttered a false prophecy.
Most of the "false prophecies" that critics attribute to Joseph Smith
are not prophecies at all, but commandments that were not obeyed either because
the Latter-day Saints were not faithful or because their enemies prevented them
from doing so. For example, though the Lord commanded the Saints to build a temple
in Independence, they were expelled from Jackson County and later from the state
of Missouri. After the Saints had settled at Nauvoo, Illinois, the Lord told the
prophet Joseph Smith:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the
sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their
might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence,
and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work,
behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons
of men, but to accept of their offerings. (D&C 124:49)
There are similar statements in the Bible. For example, the prophet Isaiah
told King Hezekiah, "Thus saith the Lord, Set thine house in order: for
thou shalt die, and not live" (2 Kings 20:1). But after the king pleaded
with the Lord, the prophet delivered a new message, saying that 15 years would
be added to his life. The Lord told Moses that he would destroy the Israelites
and make of Moses a greater nation than they. When Moses protested that this
would be wrong, the Lord changed his mind (Numbers 14:11-20).
2007-07-05 20:53:34 · answer #6 · answered by Arthurpod 4 · 4⤊ 5⤋
I would say that Joseph Smith doesn't pass the test of a true prophet.
But what about this prophecy of Jesus (Matthew 24:34) - "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Looks like we might have two false prophets on our hands....
2007-07-05 20:54:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 5⤋
Oh ,come on now, leave the Mormons alone! They mean well and they're a lot of fun!!!
2007-07-05 21:00:52 · answer #8 · answered by Pooka 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I agree with everything except the jesus part.
2007-07-05 20:55:52 · answer #9 · answered by Lionheart ® 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Source reference, please, for the mental illness stuff.... very interesting.
2007-07-05 20:55:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋