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A few days ago Scooter Libby was pardoned by our "chistian" President because the sentence was too harsh he said. Curious about what the bible says about this issue I found
Deuteronomy 19:18-19, Proverbs 19:5, Matthew 19:18, Mark 10:19, Exodus 20:16, Luke 18:20, Romans 13:9 And these are only a few that say a false witness/ liar, a person that commits perjury should be punished and sometimes by death. So was 30 months too harsh? And does President Bush really beleive and fear God or is this just a show for those not smart enough to know better?

2007-07-05 12:30:08 · 16 answers · asked by dlee_75 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

So then a person does not have to follow the teachings of the bible? They only have to beleive and accept chirst and that is that? Wow if this is the case you are giving me more and more reason not to believe. It seems that this chirstian religion is a good one. YOu can do what you want to when you want to and there are no consqences for your actions.
Also, Libby was convicted by a jury of his peers for perjury. I care little if you think he deserved it or not. The jury heard the evidence you and I did not all we can go by is what they had to say which was guilty. And the Judge gave him a sentence that is called for in this type of federal prosecution.. And if Libby is now free I think he needs to pay for all of the money that the trial and investigation cost the american taxpayers out of his own pocket.

2007-07-05 12:45:05 · update #1

16 answers

Just as much as that Time magazine "man of the year" ...circa 1936...a. hitler was !!!!

Not for a minute do I believe that he is Christian.

And, yes, for political purposes a. hitler called himself a Christian; as he bullied other nations into 'appeasing' him.

See any parallels.

'by their fruits you shall know them'..to pardon this crook is unpardonable. Especially on top of the bodies of 3400 of our best and brightest young men...Grrrrrr.

2007-07-05 13:15:45 · answer #1 · answered by Bill S 4 · 1 1

Depends on how you define "Christian". If my "Christian" you mean Christ-Like, then no, Bush is not a Christian any more than anybody else. If, on the other hand, you mean Bush accepts the fundamental tenants of the Christian faith--the divinity of Christ, his death, and bodily resurrection, then--I've never met him to quiz him about it, so I don't know.

Bush, if he *is* a Christian, is a Protestant, as he ignored the Pope on Iraq and Stem-Cell research. The Pope condemned both, whereas Bush was enthusiastic about the former, and comprimised on the latter.

As for the interpretive issue, Israel was a Theocracy, and America is not. God has not given America any laws other than the natural law, expressly because America definitely rejected the rule of God when we rebelled against our King. Still couching everything in Theological language, our Founding Fathers found a way to render God essentially powerless in terms of the law, while keeping him as a sentimental nicety.

Unless America submits her neck to the yolk of Christ, no law of the Bible has legal binding over her--she doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of the Church, whose book the Bible is--and thus not one of her Presidents, Christian or not, have the authority to implement any law outside of natural law.

If America were to become a confessional state, the penalties of the law would only apply to those in the Church who, being first freed from the law, return to it by abandoning the Church and refusing absolution. The penalty would then be carried out by the state, not the Church. Even then, to prevent greater evils, a lesser penalty may be issued in accordance with the law of charity exampled for us in Christ, and as befits a child of God, even a trecherous one.

Those who are outside the Church are under the jurisdiction of the natural law. Honesty is a spiritual virtue, not a natural one. Thus, punishment of perjury would be limited to what is necessary to protect society from the criminal, and provide for his salvation.

2007-07-05 13:04:30 · answer #2 · answered by delsydebothom 4 · 0 0

The terms Christian or Christians occur only three times in the New Testament (at Acts 11:26; 26:28; and 1 Peter 4:16). In each case these terms simply refer to those who follow Christ.

I fail to find other definitions of Christianity persuasive-definitions based on interpretations of the Bible by particular denominations or on the interpretations of the classical creeds from the early Christian centuries. I doubt that anyone has the authority to exclude others from Christianity based on these definitions. As C. S. Lewis observed:

"It is not for us to say who, in the deepest sense, is or is not close to the spirit of Christ. We do not see into men's hearts. We cannot judge, and are indeed forbidden to judge. It would be wicked arrogance for us to say that any man is, or is not, a Christian in this refined sense . . . When a man who accepts the Christian doctrine lives unworthily of it, it is much clearer to say he is a bad Christian than to say he is not a Christian."

Christian teachings and practices can be more or less inadequate, even seriously mistaken, while remaining Christian, just as competing theories of the solar system can vary and still lay claim to being scientific theories. The only definition of the word Christian that accounts for its use through the centuries and that includes all the individuals and groups who are universally regarded as falling under its description seems to be roughly this: A Christian is a person who accepts Jesus Christ as, uniquely, his or her Lord and Redeemer. By this definition, George W. Bush, along with hundreds of millions of other believers in Jesus of Nazareth distributed across many denominations over thousands of years and on every continent, abundantly qualify as Christians.

2007-07-05 12:38:11 · answer #3 · answered by Arthurpod 4 · 0 0

Yes. He is a believer.

The Libby thing is hardly anything to build a platform on. Libby was convicted of misleading prosecutors about a crime that NEVER HAPPENED. What President Bush did was to show the best mercy he could after the justice system failed.

2007-07-05 12:38:07 · answer #4 · answered by †Lawrence R† 6 · 0 0

Absolutely no way. Look for the fruits. There are none. Dig a little deeper and you'll discover he practices white magic witchcraft. Once a member of Skull & Bones, aways a member.

2007-07-05 12:43:14 · answer #5 · answered by High Flyer 4 · 1 0

As a Catholic,no. He's like any so-called fundamentalist - really more like a messianic Jew by conviction than a real Christian. That's why he surrounds himself with neo-cons and does everything they want. He thinks they're part of a super-race. Plus he apparently embraces some of this armageddon stuff. He's definitely a rabid zionist and it definately comes from his religious/politico values. This is why we are in Iraq. Still.

2007-07-05 12:35:02 · answer #6 · answered by Galahad 7 · 0 2

I think he is. Why would you lie about believing in Christ? You could totaly disobey everything in the Bible and what Jesus said, and still be a Christian, prehaps not a verry good Christian, but a Christian none the less. A Christian is anyone believing that Jesus is Christ.

Edit: Techniquely Satin (Christian version) would be a Christian, because he knows Jesus = Christ.

2007-07-05 12:36:08 · answer #7 · answered by lufiabuu 4 · 1 2

I feel that he

MAY

not be saved but I am

NOT

God so I can not say for sure, one way or another. This is the best I can do.

2007-07-05 12:39:44 · answer #8 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 0 0

He is a member of a Christendom church.
That's all I can tell you.

I'll say this, a true follower of Christ will not be a earthly political leader.
Does that help?

2007-07-05 12:34:34 · answer #9 · answered by rangedog 7 · 1 1

I'm an atheist... Bush is the anti-christ. That almost makes me a believer. He is no more a Christian than I am.

2007-07-05 12:33:35 · answer #10 · answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6 · 5 1

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