rapture is taught as a absolute doctrine mostly, if you dont believe rapture are you still saved?

Question

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Answer 1

The theological concept of the Rapture as we know it today was largely promoted by John Nelson Darby and Cyrus Scofield in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Christianity survived without it for centuries.

Answer 2

First, it must be pointed out that the Bible says nothing about the rapture! The word “rapture” is not found in all of God’s Word. Neither is the idea of the rapture in the Bible. False teachers, commonly called “Premillennialists” or “Dispensationalists,” have invented the doctrine of the rapture. It is a doctrine of man, not of God. “And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.” “But He answered and said, ‘Every plant, which My heavenly Father has not planted, will be uprooted’” (Matthew 15:9,13).

Second, concerning the second coming of our Lord, the Bible teaching is very plain and simple. The Bible teaches that Jesus is coming again. Jesus Himself promised He would return (John 14:1-3). When Jesus ascended back to Heaven, the angels promised He would come again (Acts 1:9-11). The apostle Peter promised that our Lord would return (2 Peter 3:10,11). Many other passages could also be added which teach that Jesus is coming again.

Third, the Bible teaches that the coming of the Lord will be sudden and unexpected. The Bible says: “Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. . . . Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect” (Matthew 24:42,44). Please read also I Thessalonians 5:1-11.

Fourth, the Bible plainly teaches that no man knows the time when the Lord will return. Jesus said: “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). If no man knows the hour, it is not possible that anyone can predict the time or give any signs of the time (Mark 13:32).

Fifth, the Bible teaches that Christ is coming back to receive His kingdom (church). Please note the words of the apostle Paul: “Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power” (1 Corinthians 15:24).

Sixth, the Bible clearly teaches that when Christ comes again, this earth and everything in it will be destroyed: “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up” (2 Peter 3:10).

Seventh, the Bible teaches that when Christ comes again, the dead will be raised and judgment will take place. Jesus said: “Do not marvel at this, for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth-- those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation” (John 5:28,29). Please read also Matthew 25:31-46.

Eighth, following the second coming of Christ, the judgment of the world, and the destruction of the earth, the saved ones will be with the Lord forever (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). The Bible teaching on the second coming is simple, plain, and easily understood. There is nothing in the Bible, however, about the rapture! Our purpose on earth is not to try to guess the time when the Lord will come, but to be ready so that when He does come, we will be prepared.

Answer 3

Actually, the "rapture" is not, at all, biblical. No where does the Bible say people will just be plucked away while others sleep, or disappear from airplanes, or any such thing. The only texts that people use to support this "theory" is Luke 17:34-36 and Matt 24:40-41. These texts do not say anything about vanishing suddenly; rather, it shows that two people can be doing the same thing, yet one will be saved and the other will not. Study to show yourself approved ...

Answer 4

The rapture has rightly indicated the deeds of whom brought about the end of the world are practical devils in the society. It is the devilish deeds of such people that make it all the more necessary for a complete upheaval of the society. The present society... is it really livable? Unethical practices and wanton desires have become the order of the day. Those who should be behind bars rule the meek.

The harvest... the world war three and the aftermath shall result in complete overhaul of the society. Almost 1200 million people annihilated... society would gloat in the new found meaning... the awaited golden era... the period of spiritual transformation! Those dwelling in godly thoughts... with their Angel like working shall become the reapers! The righteous would shine in the glory of God!

People world over are awaiting the true son of God... the advent of Bhagwan Kalki... one who shall deliver the mankind from the ills of today! This turnaround shall happen in the history of mankind after about 3600 years. During the times of Lord Krishna... almost similar conditions prevailed. Then Lord Krishna (an Avatar of the era) prevailed on the scene! Now people await the coming of Bhagwan Kalki... the Avatar of the modern era (God manifest in human form)! More on 2012 - http://www.godrealized.com/2012.html

Answer 5

Sir, I have read the 1st 30 responses to you question and most have been in the negative to the " rapture". I must also ask forgiveness for typos and mispells in advance. But I urge you to please read on.

I don't know much about the history of this doctrine of the Rapture of the Church. other than sufice it to say, I believe it was taught in the late 1800's and has gone on to now to be one of the fundamental doctrines of the protestant, or evangelical community.

Some will tell you that the word "rapture" dose not appear in the bible, and I say thats not necessarily true.

1st Thess 4: 16-18 NIV
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.

The Key verse is verse 17 and the phrase "caught up together" This phrase in the english is a rendering of the greek word "HARPAZO" pronounced "Har-pad'-zo meaning to sieze or catch away. It is the root word for the english word rapture.

Now as I said I am not a learned scholar but I do my best to "rightly devide the word of truth". I like the Bereans " search the scriptures, to see" and I have several translations of the word including a Hebrew and Greek Strongs dictionary. There are those in the Christian community that would shun the view point of Christ coming to take the saints away from the earth. Well I have read the Bible many times and I have seen in it the case for a pre, mid, and post trib rapture. None of which are to be confused with a "secret 2nd comming" the Rapture is not a 2nd comming at all and is a separate event, " For He will come as a thief in the night". I believe that those that are left behind will not even be aware of what has happened, untill they see the news. Some will wonder why they are not gone too. (that will be the kicker).

The second comming of Christ will be in Glory for all to see, all of heaven and all of earth, and I believe that we as the "caught up ones" will be part of the vast army of saints and angels that will witness the battle of God (Jesus). We will not lift a sword for Christ will do all the fighting and He will be victorious as His Word will destroy the enemy and the wicked.
(See Revelation, Ezekiel, Isaiah etc)

I personally lean toward the pre trib version myself, but when it all boils down to it, in these last days before Christ dose return the most important message that we as Christians can expound is this:

Jesus said "I AM the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except that it be by me" We must preach this truth of Jesus as Savior for the sins of this world before it is too late.

The passage of scripture you quoted is true, and God will send those to reap the harvest, and we should be ready, and proclaiming this gospel, even as we are being reaped to the throne of Grace. So that the onse that offend the Son of God will be as few as possible, we bear the burden of the Gospel message of Jesus. This is our good work that we have been created for in Christ.

I hope this helps a bit, and I bless you in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.


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Answer 6

The answer to your question depends on what you mean by "the rapture." The English word "rapture" is derived from the Latin translation of the verb "caught up" in 1 Thess. 4:17 (rapiemur). What Paul teaches in this passage, namely, that those who are still living on earth when Christ returns visibly on the last day "will be caught up" ("raptured") together with "the dead in Christ" to "meet the Lord in the air."

Some Christians teach, however, that the "rapture" will take place not on the last day but in connection with an "invisible" coming of Christ occurring before a seven-year period of "tribulation" on earth, allowing Christians to "escape" this tribulation and then later return to earth for a literal "1000 year reign of Christ."
These teachings are not based on a proper understanding of Scripture. Scripture teaches that all Christians will endure varying degrees of "tribulation" until the last day, that Christ will return only once (visibly) to "catch up" ("rapture") all believers, living and dead, into heaven, and that all believers will reign forever with him in heaven. The "1000 years" of Rev. 20:11-15 is a figurative reference to Christ's reign here and now in the hearts and lives of believers, which will culminate in our reigning with Christ forever in heaven following his return on the last day.

Answer 7

The book of Revelation was written in code. It was written in a style of writing common at that time. The rapture is not a doctrine. It is not believed by most Christian denominations including the Roman Catholic Church. Those who believe in it are those with a poor understanding of how the Bible was written and who accept the Bible literally.

Answer 8

Gee I sure hope I'm still saved even if I don't neccesarily believe in the rapture, because if I wasn't then jesus would have been lying when he said "I am the way the truth and the life no-one comes to the father except through me." And that would just plain suck doncha think?

Answer 9

The rapture is a lie. Jesus said he will gather the church/elect "immediatly after the tribulation".

Gods coming after the tribulation. The tribulation isnt Gods wrath, its the anti-christ's rise to power.

Matt. 24:27-31**
1. Called he parousia, "the coming" (27)
2. Jesus appears in heaven (30)
3. Coming on the clouds (30)
4. Angels present (31)
5. Great sound of a trumpet (31)
6. ---
7. Gathering of the elect (31)

1 Thess. 4:15-17 **
1. Called he parousia, "the coming" (15)
2. The Lord descends from heaven (16)
3. . . . with them in the clouds (17)
4. Archangel present (16)
5. Shout and trumpet of God (16)
6. Dead in Christ will rise (16)
7. We are caught up to meet him (17)

1 Cor. 15:52**
1. Called he parousia, "the coming" (23)
2. ---
3. ---
4. ---
5. At the last trumpet (52)
6. Dead will be raised (52)
7. ---

Answer 10

It depends what you mean by "saved" and it also depends on what else you believe in. I mean, if you don't believe in the rapture, then why would you believe in the other aspects of the denomination that includes this belief. So if you don't believe in it, you probably would not have to worry about being saved, because it would not matter in the first place since you don't believe, because in most denominations, "being saved" requires believing first.

Answer 11

If you don't believe in the Rapture you don't believe in that part of the Bible. So the next question is what other parts of the Bible don't you believe? Do you deny Christ? That is a reason for not going to heaven. The only reason.
All the stuff you cited is addressed to unbelievers, not believers. Context is king. I've sited the rapture passage for you, and at least one that validates it.